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RE: VMs: Currier A and B



Hi GC,

  The real problem here is that Currier chose the words "language" and
"hand" in his description of statistical similarities.  Much like my
personal problem with "character" and "letter", "language" and "hand" mean
different things to different people, even when the context for their use is
evident as statistical, not real.  "Language" in these arguments does not
imply a difference in spoken or written language, and Rene makes this point
as well.  "Hand" does not signify that someone has actually determined that
this was another writer.  These are Currier's definitions for statistical
"language" and apparent "hand", nothing more.  I sincerely wish we could
come up with better and less confusing terms for these things.  I've already
introduced "glyph" to narrow the wide variation of perception about the
actual transcription of a "character", maybe someone else can find something
to mark differences in "language"?

Howabout:-


        "language"      ==> "Voynichese", the linguistic/crypto system
        "dialect"       ==> each major behaviour-grouping we find
((  &   "hand"          ==> each major rendering-style we find ))

I think this is fair, as even though there are plainly differences between these dialects, they do all seem to operate within a reasonably coherent linguistic/cryptological whole.

Trying to separate out and then produce a relational map of the dialects should give us a deeper insight into the internal structure of the language: but we will all benefit from trying to do this collaboratively. We all agree that various dialects exist within the text - but can the differences between those dialects be reduced to a definitive set of rules we all agree on?

Cheers, .....Nick Pelling.....

PS: IIRC, Currier suspected a line formed a conceptual unit because line-initial and line-final characters/glyphs have different stats from those inside a line. However, I don't recall his suggesting that each line potentially used a separate dialect?


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