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Re: VMs: A & B Tokens and Titles....



Hi John,

At 09:53 19/07/2003 -0400, John Grove wrote:
All B-tokenized pages just happen to be attached to a B-tokenized
sheet of vellum. That is if one looks through the Herbal-A pages and finds
one B-tokenized
page, you won't be surprised to find that the other end of that sheet of
vellum is
also a B-tokenized page. If the B-tokens were the result of later additions,
then both
haves of the sheet were added at the same time. When we reach folio 26 we
hit our first
B-tokenized page stuck in amongst a quire of A-tokenized pages - with
ofcourse its other
half at folio 31 being the only other B-tokenized page in the quire.


So if B-tokens were the result of later additions, then the additions
amounted
to four full pages (26r/v and 31r/v) to this quire. While going through a
quick review of
the folio layout (again) and noting (again) that the quires don't make sense
with the
folio numbering although I have no doubt whatsoever that the quire markings
are much older
than the folio numbering - but both were done a few centuries ago.

Aside from the mis-aligned diagram in the balneological section, are there any other cues we might use in order to determine the most likely original quire folio-order?


For example, in the first quire, it looks to me like the top of the plant in f3v has bled across to the curve at the top of f4r (opposite) when painted, so I guess these were in the same order when the page was painted up (which I assume was before the foliation). Similarly for the mark at the top of f4v and f5r, and the mark 25% down the page on f5v and f6r. In fact, I'd say quire 1 seems pretty rock-solid, order-wise.

The Herbal A and Herbal B folios would seem to suggest that the VMS were originally quired by group: but if so, is there any physical evidence to support this idea? Basically, is there sufficient evidence there to infer what the original order probably was?

Cheers, .....Nick Pelling.....


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