Re: VMs: Drawing circles

["Larry Roux" <lroux@xxxxxxx>]

Sorry, I wrote the last message before running to the store.  I should have waited.  Plus, I forgot that folio numbers appear to differ depending where you go.

f70v1 April (dark) - shco around noon and shcy little less than noon (try em both!)
http://voynich.no-ip.com/folios/f70v1.jpg

f70v2 March - shco noon http://voynich.no-ip.com/folios/f70v2.jpg




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Larry Roux
Syracuse University
lroux@xxxxxxx
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>>> dscott520@xxxxxxx 08/05/03 22:07 PM >>>
Hello Larry,

Good investigative work; however, I do have a question? I think it would 
help if you tell us just where on the volvelles you are making the 
comparison between f70v1 and f71r. For example, I see the "shcy" at about 2 
o'clock on the middle circle of f71r, but on f70v1 at about the same 
location I see "shcl".

Regards,
Dana Scott


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Roux" <lroux@xxxxxxx>
To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: VMs: Drawing circles


> I printed two "random" pages f70v1 and f71r and the circles match 
> perfectly.  That did not surprise me much as I suspected whatever tool was 
> used to draw the circles was used over again.
>
> What *did* shock me was that the word "shcy" on the two pages was 
> *exactly* the same.  Same size, same inflexion.  When you hold it to the 
> light the two occurrences merge into one.  Now how weird is that?!?!
>
> If I was able to write characters around a circle and have them come out 
> exactly the same - size and shape - I think I would be shocked beyond all 
> belief.
>
>
>
>
> ******************************
> Larry Roux
> Syracuse University
> lroux@xxxxxxx
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> >>> pyro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 08/05/03 20:30 PM >>>
> Ok..
>
> If this is true and the "light box" was available in VMS days, that 
> encourages my insane fascination about the translucency of vellum.  The 
> "how" of the circle creation was secondary to my interest in the "if" of 
> the apparent recto/verso alignment was intentional. (that's a sentence to 
> make an English teacher scream)
>
> Barbara, do you know of any reference material about this light box, its 
> use and how common it was?
>
> Ken
>
>
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Barbara Barrett
>   To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:55 PM
>   Subject: Re: VMs: Drawing circles
>
>
>   Barbara babbles;
>   I wonder how many listers realise that the artists tool, the "light
>   box", was actually invented in the 7th Century AD by an unknown monk on
>   Holy Island to aid the production of the Lindisfarne Gospels (AKA The
>   Book of Lindisfarne) and was a standard tool of monastic scriptoria by
>   the 8thC? Any well equiped private scriptorium in the 16thC would almost
>   certainly have had at least one.
>
>   I've no idea what these "ancient" light boxes used in place of modern
>   float glass (a 20thC invention) as a work surface, howver the principle
>   of placing a light source behind a transparent work surface to enable
>   *very* accurate tracing, and a shadowless work surface, was several
>   centuries old by the time of the Voynich and I can see no reason why the
>   Voynich author(s) couldn't have used one if they worked in a monastic or
>   private scriptorium.
>
>   Perhaps this explains the "how" of the drawings folk puzzle over?
>
>   Just a thought.
>
>   Barbara
>
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