Re: VMs: Drawing circles

["DANA SCOTT" <dscott520@xxxxxxx>]

Very good. Thank you. Notice also how the outer circle of nymphs in 
baths/barrels are spaced closer at the top of the March f70v2 volvelle and 
are spaced at progressively wider intervals towards the bottom around 6 
o'clock. This may have forced the scribe to have to split "words" on either 
side of the 12 o'clock high bath/barrel. We see 'oky' over 'ody' instead of 
'okyody' just before 12 o'clock high and 'oty' over what looks like 'ar' 
instead of 'otyar' just after 12 o'clock high.

Regards,
Dana Scott


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Roux" <lroux@xxxxxxx>
To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: VMs: Drawing circles


> Sorry, I wrote the last message before running to the store.  I should 
> have waited.  Plus, I forgot that folio numbers appear to differ depending 
> where you go.
>
> f70v1 April (dark) - shco around noon and shcy little less than noon (try 
> em both!)
> http://voynich.no-ip.com/folios/f70v1.jpg
>
> f70v2 March - shco noon http://voynich.no-ip.com/folios/f70v2.jpg
>
>
>
>
> ******************************
> Larry Roux
> Syracuse University
> lroux@xxxxxxx
> *******************************
> >>> dscott520@xxxxxxx 08/05/03 22:07 PM >>>
> Hello Larry,
>
> Good investigative work; however, I do have a question? I think it would
> help if you tell us just where on the volvelles you are making the
> comparison between f70v1 and f71r. For example, I see the "shcy" at about 
> 2
> o'clock on the middle circle of f71r, but on f70v1 at about the same
> location I see "shcl".
>
> Regards,
> Dana Scott
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry Roux" <lroux@xxxxxxx>
> To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:11 PM
> Subject: Re: VMs: Drawing circles
>
>
> > I printed two "random" pages f70v1 and f71r and the circles match
> > perfectly.  That did not surprise me much as I suspected whatever tool 
> > was
> > used to draw the circles was used over again.
> >
> > What *did* shock me was that the word "shcy" on the two pages was
> > *exactly* the same.  Same size, same inflexion.  When you hold it to the
> > light the two occurrences merge into one.  Now how weird is that?!?!
> >
> > If I was able to write characters around a circle and have them come out
> > exactly the same - size and shape - I think I would be shocked beyond 
> > all
> > belief.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ******************************
> > Larry Roux
> > Syracuse University
> > lroux@xxxxxxx
> > *******************************
> > >>> pyro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 08/05/03 20:30 PM >>>
> > Ok..
> >
> > If this is true and the "light box" was available in VMS days, that
> > encourages my insane fascination about the translucency of vellum.  The
> > "how" of the circle creation was secondary to my interest in the "if" of
> > the apparent recto/verso alignment was intentional. (that's a sentence 
> > to
> > make an English teacher scream)
> >
> > Barbara, do you know of any reference material about this light box, its
> > use and how common it was?
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Barbara Barrett
> >   To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >   Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:55 PM
> >   Subject: Re: VMs: Drawing circles
> >
> >
> >   Barbara babbles;
> >   I wonder how many listers realise that the artists tool, the "light
> >   box", was actually invented in the 7th Century AD by an unknown monk 
> > on
> >   Holy Island to aid the production of the Lindisfarne Gospels (AKA The
> >   Book of Lindisfarne) and was a standard tool of monastic scriptoria by
> >   the 8thC? Any well equiped private scriptorium in the 16thC would 
> > almost
> >   certainly have had at least one.
> >
> >   I've no idea what these "ancient" light boxes used in place of modern
> >   float glass (a 20thC invention) as a work surface, howver the 
> > principle
> >   of placing a light source behind a transparent work surface to enable
> >   *very* accurate tracing, and a shadowless work surface, was several
> >   centuries old by the time of the Voynich and I can see no reason why 
> > the
> >   Voynich author(s) couldn't have used one if they worked in a monastic 
> > or
> >   private scriptorium.
> >
> >   Perhaps this explains the "how" of the drawings folk puzzle over?
> >
> >   Just a thought.
> >
> >   Barbara
> >
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