Re: VMs: Strange pattern (key?)

[steve ekwall <ekwall2@xxxxxxxx>]

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 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:43:51 -0500
 From: Larry Roux <lroux@xxxxxxx>
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 Subject: Re: VMs: Strange pattern (key?)
 
 "How could someone have devised a language system (whether ciphered or not) without a repeatable template to work to?"
 
 Maybe they just wanted to drive future generations nuts <grin>
 
 I think the "language" (or the cypher) grew as the Voy progressed.  As far as language goes the later pages (ie 103r+) are the best ones to go by.  That is, IMHO.
 
 
 
 
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 Larry Roux
 Syracuse University
 lroux@xxxxxxx
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 >>> incoming@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 11/17/03 19:15 PM >>>
 Hi Jeff & Larry,
 
 > >>> jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 11/16/03 02:49PM >>>
 >Observe the following taken from the VMS. Whenever a word begins with the T
 >glyph it is followed shortly by a word with the P glyph. Either on the same
 >line or at some point shortly after. Could be the next page even.
 >Let's look at these words in isolation:
 >tsheos
 >pcheol
 >tsheoarom
 >pcheoldom
 >I cannot account for this effect being merely a product
 >of shorthand or a verbose cipher. These words are definately linked.
 
 Sorry Jeff, but this is a pretty thin-looking claim. Really, you'd need to 
 find more than two pairs of words with something vaguely in common to claim 
 a VMs-related pattern of some sort. :-(
 
 At 14:25 17/11/2003 -0500, Larry Roux wrote:
 >I am fairly certain that a leading "p" (ie in the left column) is a 
 >paragraph start marker and a leading "t" is a sentence marker.
 
 Well... look at (for example) f26v and tell me what you make of that. f26r 
 also displays both the "paragraph-initial" property and the "all kinds of 
 monkey business on the top line of a page" property. Every time you devise 
 a model for how the VMs works, you'll immediately find plenty of pages 
 which it fails to fit - but why is that? How can that be? How could someone 
 have devised a language system (whether ciphered or not) without a 
 repeatable template to work to?
 
 Cheers, .....Nick Pelling..... 
  
 

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