Sagittarius, was: VMs: Costamagna and abbreviation...

[Rene Zandbergen <r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx>]

There are crossbows relating to Sagittarius
in a ME (or late modern) MS which was once owned
by Queen Christina of Sweden. There is a link to
a picture at:
http://www.voynich.nu/extras.html 
(click on 'Leo' near the bottom of the page).

I think there was also one identified in a 
German 'Blockbuch' (Rafal may remember).

Rene

--- DANA SCOTT <dscott520@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> No doubt there are Saggitarius examples similar to
> that seen in the VMS if one looks hard enough.
> Correct me if I am wrong, but I seem to recall that
> Rene had stated the identification of the
> Saggitarius figure drawn in the VMS. Was is related
> to a manuscript know to Queen Isabela? Sorry, but I
> really don't recall for sure.
> 
>
http://www.stamptopicals.com/secret/stamps/march1/ASTRONOMY,ZODIAC,ANCIENT_MOSAICS,JUDAICA_FDC_fr.ISRAEL.jpg
> 
> Regards,
> Dana Scott
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: luis.velez@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:58 PM
>   Subject: Re: Re: VMs: Costamagna and
> abbreviation...
> 
> 
>   Hi Petr,
>   Sounds like a great idea - I'm trying to get
> several people from Italy to cooperate on this, as
> well as on the 'has anyone seen a celestial map with
> Sagittarius using a crossbow?' query. 
> 
>   Luis
>   > 
>   > From: "PK#01" <pklist01@xxxxxxxxx>
>   > Date: 2003/12/04 Thu PM 01:38:42 EST
>   > To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>   > Subject: Re: VMs: Costamagna and abbreviation...
>   > 
>   > > > It may well be that all we're missing is
> examples of heavily abbreviated
>   > > > scribal text from circa 1450 (I'd suggest
> from near Milan): and that the
>   > > > VMs is merely a heavily obfuscated version
> of this kind of text.
>   > 
>   > There is an adress list of Dutch medievists
> here:
>   > http://www.medievistiek.nl/pdf/adreslijst.pdf
> 
> 
>   > Shall I send an e-mail with this question to
> some of them at random? We
>   > might be lucky.
>   > 
>   >
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