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Re: VMs: Folio 68r3
Only alpha is named in history near as I can tell.
According to Allen: "Caput Trianguli was translated "Ras al Muthallath" by the Arabian astronomers. It is a half-magnitude inferior to beta, although the latter bears no name. Together these two were the Arabs' Al Mizan, the Scale-Beam"
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Larry Roux
Syracuse University
lroux@xxxxxxx
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Hi David,
At 20:46 11/12/2003 +0000, David Bianchi wrote:
>I've checked the page of the VMS f68r3 and I think that in the quadrant
>where the supposed Pleyades are, the stand alone star could be Aldebaran.
>In addition the three star in the quadrant opposite to the Pleyades ( 3
>stars only) could be related to the Trianguli constellation.
>
>For reference see a star map.
>
>Could someone have more info or suggestions to add?
Aldebaran has been suggested many times over the years for this star: Rene
Zandbergen also suggested (in 1996) that one might instead consider the
1054 supernova in Taurus as a possible candidate. There's quite a lot more
in the list archives if you're interested in comparing notes.
However, the correspondence with Trianguli (catalogued by Ptolemy) appears
to be a new suggestion. Don Latham listed Alpha Tri[anguli]:-
http://www.voynich.nu/extra/donstars.html
Alpha Tri = Metallah; Mothallah; Atria; Caput Trianguli; Ras al Muthallah;
Elmuthalleth
http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~dolan/constellations/hr/0544.html
More on Tri from Peoria:
http://www.astronomical.org/constellations/tri.html
"Triangulum, the Triangle, is a very old group named originally named
Deltotron by the Greeks after the Greek letter Delta, which its shape
resembles. It was later associated with several forms of triangle. The
Romans saw it as the island Sicily in the sky. There are several stars just
south of today's Triangle which were formally called Triangulum Minor (6,1
0, and 12/13 Trianguli). This small group has been discarded by modem
astronomers."
http://www.csulb.edu/~gordon/constel.html
Ptolemy's Almagest (contents, not description):-
http://astro.isi.edu/reference/almagest.html
However, on f68r3, *all three* stars have labels, though only Alpha appears
to have been named historically. Does anyone know if Beta Tri and Gamma Tri
have ever had names? I can't find any on the Internet... but that may not
be the last word on the subject. :-)
Cheers, .....Nick Pelling.....
PS: I drifted away from the subject after my Astronomy O-level many years
ago, so that's about as far as I can go here. :-/
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