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Re: VMs: VMS EVA ii combinations (fq2b.zip: 7k)

Hmm. I wonder if there is some confusion that pairs of characters that seem to go together in the VMS (e.g. 4o) are being referred to as a single glyph made up by the combination of two distinct glyphs put together? I haven't thought of 4o, for example, as a single glyph, just as I don't think of qu in English as a single character, though rr and ll and ch in Spanish might lean more towards the single character concept than qu. I hope this isn't creating some confusion, though certainly single 'characters' are made up of multiple and pen strokes as when using the accent mark over certain letters in the Spanish alphabet. For instance, something like the plume over c in the VMS might be considered a single character or glyph. 
Dana Scott
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: VMs: VMS EVA ii combinations (fq2b.zip: 7k)

20/12/2003 1:34:04 AM, Bruce Grant <bgrant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>   I haven't been paying enough attention - what definition
>   are you guys using for "glyph"?

None explicitly. There is no proper terminology either.
We should speak of graphemes and allographs. But the term
which should properly be "graph" is in practice "glyph".

We should be speaking either in terms of grapheme-allograph-
graph or in terms of glypheme-alloglyph-glyph.

Since "graph" is already taken and its use can only
introduce confusion, the latter would be preferable.

Just one example to make it clearer: a handwritten 'a'
and a Times New Roman 'a' are alloglyphs (allographs)
of the same glypheme (grapheme). But handwritten 'b'
and Arial 'c' are not.

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