Re: VMs: Re: Re: German bits

["Larry Roux" <lroux@xxxxxxx>]

Yes, I think the first line is "pax labor roman notarer" but that is, of course, subjective.



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Larry Roux
Syracuse University
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>>> dscott520@xxxxxxx 12/22/03 15:37 PM >>>
I believe there has been a suggestion of 'roman' for the third word? Who knows?

Regards,
Dana Scott
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  Could the first 2 words of the top most line be "pax labor"  (peace in work) ?


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  Larry Roux
  Syracuse University
  lroux@xxxxxxx
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  >>> mesinik@xxxxxx 12/20/03 04:41PM >>>


  what I got on the last page after some big & sttronng  austrian coffee
  (tomorrow I probably dont believe, its worth mentioning, so I send it right now 
  in the night...


  So, the four lines told me:


  1. line
  vorlober
  (vorleser, vox-lober ?)

  virsi
  (I cant hold back myself here, this is the precise spelling of something like 
  "hymn" or "mantra" in finnish and a bunch of other finno-ugric languages), these 
  are probably just verses

  vorsete??
  (vorsagen??? whatever???)



  2. line
  + michiton
  (weiss nicht, was für ein Ton ist es)
  oladabas
  (lets think, its some term of vms grammar?) +

  multas + te + taer tere (or  cere) + portas + m (n?) + ???
  (could they be the names of  "many" glyphs of vms alphabet?
  do some of them "hold" the others?)

  fix + ... (I give up - could these be terms of vms grammar too?
  I cant integrate very well in this logic 
  "Maria" with cross etc right in the night)  +

  a?or  sh??y
  (some term in voynechese?)
  valsch
  (probably wants to say, to do something is "falsch", wrong)

  so nim
  (so take - seems to be imperativ "Also pronounce!")
  ga?mich  O
  (native Germans, please tell, was für ein "O" ist das?)








  > 19/12/2003 8:38:00 PM, Elmar Vogt <elvogt@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  > >Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that there were "three lines of German" in a 

  >  + michi ton oladabas + mltos + ?? + ?? cerc + ... [more rubbish]
  >  Sta + maria + maria + via + ahia + maria +
  >  <oror sheey> valdch ubren So nim gaS mich o
  > 
  > >From "michi ton" and so on you extract "mihi
  > dabas multos" and from the "more rubbish" you
  > get "portas". Hence: "you were giving me 
  > many doors". A sound ignorance of Latin
  > helps reach this decipherment, too.
  > 
  > The "So nim gaS mich" bit is interpreted by some
  > as "so nim gar mich". Whence, I suppose, the
  > legend of the German lines.
  > 
  > 
  > >If this is truly a hoax, that'd be the best thing, because then the riddle 
  > >would never end...
  > >
  > >Cheers,
  > >
  > > Elmar
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