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Re: VMs: Re: The Sun, The Moon and The Stars



Coincidently, I am off this evening to introduce a retired psychologist to the VMs.  Actually, I am going to him to see if he can help my addiction with the VMs!  :-)  But, seriously, I will let you know if he notices anything.

Ted Young

----- Original Message -----
From: DANA SCOTT <dscott520@xxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2004 10:26 pm
Subject: VMs: Re: The Sun, The Moon and The Stars

> Well, the sun personified as female and the moon as male may have 
> something to do with long curly golden hair and black straight 
> hair. Yes, I know it's not gender specific, but who knows what 
> motivated the author of the VMS. I think it would be interesting 
> to see a psychological profile report on the mysterious scribe.
> 
> ,
> Dana Scott
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Ted Young 
>  To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>  Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:41 PM
>  Subject: VMs: The Sun, The Moon and The Stars
> 
> 
>  Wow, this manuscript really does tease you.  I decided to sit 
> down tonight
>  and compare vocabulary used around pictures of the sun and the 
> moon.  The
>  idea was that they would have used the words SUN and MOON 
> repeatedly (in
>  what ever language it may be in).  But, as you would expect, 
> there were no
>  repeating words.  Here is what I worked with in EVA using best guess
>  transcription.
> 
>  SUN
>  -----------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
>  yky.dary.chkchykoly                                        f68r1
>  okey.okoaiin.okol.oky.oeeeo.r.ekey.okchol.cheo.o.koiin           
> f68r2
>  otchsy.ol.shy.oteo.sal.ol.keey.oteol.choky.otchoshy            f70r2
> 
> 
>  MOON
>  -----------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
>  oky.okchdy.okardy.***sar.olgy                                f68r1
>  okeo.okor.oko.okemy.okaisy.qokool.cheo.qo*ol                    
> f68r2  otchody.chokchy.okol.cheol.dal.cho.keol.dolaiin.okeol.oly   
>     f68r3
> 
> 
>  With basic review I could not find any correlations.  Of course, 
> there are
>  many encryption and ciphering schemes that would hide repeated 
> words.
>  Funny, huh?  One of the strangest features of this text is 
> repetition of
>  words up to five times.  Yet, you cannot find repetition when 
> you want it.
> 
>  One thing to note: the sun is personified as a woman, and the 
> moon is
>  personified as a man.  What religions considered the sun female 
> and the moon
>  male?  Most of the mythology I can remember identifies the sun 
> as male.
> 
>  For what it is worth, I also compiled a list of the names of the 
> stars.  At
>  first glance, there is nothing too spectacular here.   Though, 
> when sorted
>  alphabetically, you notice that many of them have very similar 
> names.  There
>  is even an instance of two stars with the same name on the same 
> page.
>  I find it odd that the names of these stars are so short.  
> Perhaps this is
>  further evidence of abbreviations.  European cultures name their 
> stars and
>  organized them into constellations.  Are there any cultures that 
> used a
>  different identification system (maybe numbers)?
> 
>  acphy        f68r3.X.7;H
>  chdy.oky        f68r3.X.8;H
>  cheorol        f68r2.S.1;H
>  chocphy        f68r1.S.1;H
>  chodar        f68r2.S.22;H
>  cholar        f68r2.S.11;H
>  cphocthy        f68r1.S.2;H
>  darall        f68r3.X.9;H
>  dcheoldy        f68r2.S.13;H
>  dchol        f68r2.S.5;H
>  dcholdal        f68r3.X.3;H
>  doaro        f68r3.X.1;H
>  dolchedy        f68r1.S.3;H
>  oalcheol        f68r3.X.2;H
>  ochory        f68r2.S.3;H
>  ockhy        f68r1.S.4;H
>  ocphy        f68r1.S.5;H
>  octhey        f68r1.S.6;H
>  octhyd        f68r3.X.10;H
>  odaiin        f68r2.S.2;H
>  odair.chol    f68r2.S.18;H
>  odchecthy        f68r1.S.8;H
>  ofcheody        f68r2.S.16;V
>  ofcheor        f68r1.S.9;H
>  oiinar        f68r1.S.10;H
>  okcheody        f68r2.S.12;H
>  okchoda        f68r3.X.11;H
>  okchor        f68r2.S.8;H
>  okeechor        f68r2.S.24;H
>  okeeodal        f68r1.S.12;H
>  okeor        f68r1.S.11;H
>  okoaly        f68r1.S.13;H
>  okodaly        f68r1.S.20;H
>  okolchy        f68r3.X.6;H
>  okoldy        f68r1.S.14;H
>  okos            f68r3.X.5;H
>  okshor        f68r1.S.15;H
>  olcheesey        f68r2.S.7;H
>  olor            f68r1.S.16;H
>  opocphor        f68r2.S.20;H
>  ordaiin        f68r1.S.17;H
>  otcheodar        f68r2.S.17;H
>  otcheody        f68r1.S.7;H
>  otcsey        f68r1.S.23;H
>  oteeeor        f68r2.S.14;H
>  oteool        f68r2.S.9;H
>  otochedy        f68r1.S.19;H
>  otoeeo        f68r2.S.15;R
>  otol            f68r1.S.21;H
>  otolchcthy    f68r2.S.0;H
>  otor            f68r1.S.22;H
>  otory        f68r3.X.4;H
>  otoshol        f68r2.S.21;H
>  otydm        f68r3.X.12;H
>  otydy        f68r1.S.24;H
>  otykchs        f68r1.S.25;H
>  otys            f68r1.S.26;H
>  oydchy        f68r2.S.10;H
>  shchy        f68r2.S.23;H
>  shdar        f68r2.S.4;H
>  todaraiily    f68r2.S.6;H
>  toeeodcthy    f68r1.S.27;H
>  ykchdy        f68r1.S.28;H
>  ytchody        f68r1.S.18;H
>  ytchody        f68r1.S.29;V
> 
> 
>  So, I really did not come up with anything.  But, I will post 
> this to the
>  list in case it gives someone else an idea, or perhaps someone 
> will see a
>  pattern I am missing.
> 
> 
>  Ted Young
> 
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