Hello Larry,
From which document is the Greek page you refer to taken? The following
seems to be a somewhat interesting page containing what seem to be solar and
lunar references. Notice left-hand columns on the last page which appear to
refer to the sun and moon:
Regards,
Dana Scott
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I have been looking at this page and am convinced that the
outer ring is a set of degrees.
I will try to show this with
limited graphic capabilities without including bitmaps of the
numbers:
The start is the top, center with
|- -| |- -| = 00
next
is
|- -| |oooo| |- -| = 030
then
|- -||oooooooo| |- -| =
090
this goes around till the last circle
|- -| |oooo| |oooooooo| |-
-| = 0360
My copy is missing a lot of the ring, so figuring out if this
is right is difficult, but the second to last wedge shows:
??? |oooo| |- -|
= ?30
I assume the missing part is: |- -| |oooo| (03)
making 0330
degrees...
If anyone can confirm this with a better copy of the page I
would appreciate it.
This page very much resembles a greek document
(see http://web.syr.edu/~lroux/mstaur.jpg)
with Aries at the same start point as the Voy page. I wish we had a
better copy of the greek page (and the Voy page for that
matter)
******************************
Larry
Roux
Syracuse University
lroux@xxxxxxx
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>>>
rteague@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 01/10/04
11:09 AM >>>
> > The "planets" consisted of the five
visible, plus
> > the Sun and Moon. But the Moon is drawn in already,
> > and since it can't appear near itself, one of
> > those
words cannot be 'moon'.
>
> That's because you're assuming that
these little
> moon figures have a certain meaning.
That's true.
> But we can't really know what their meaning is.
That the
words represent planet names has been an
assumption made long before I got
here. I was merely
explaining why I'm not happy with it.
> Maybe
they
> just mean that each segment is a month. Maybe the
> cresent
size is not important but only the
> colour.
I did discover a
lunar eclipse in late 1583, where
the Moon was red like in the
drawing.
> In fact, I would be very surprised if
> the
cresent size is relevant.
But the Moon is shown in that configuration
in nearly
every folio it appears in. I think it IS important.
>
There is even one
> figure where the moon has two crescents, one
on
> each side.
Which I think means a solar eclipse.
>
But, obviously, I don't know :-/
After all these years? Why don't
you? : )
> In the end, it becomes a matter of words.
> I
don't think that the seven words are certainly
> the seven planet names,
but I think it is a
> very promising lead.
Sorry, but I have to
disagree, for the reasons
already stated. I've still got to tackle the
idea
they are bright star names.
> Of the Pleiades I am far more
confident, but
> even here one cannot be certain that the
character
> string near the seven stars is actually a word
>
giving the name of the Pleiades in some language
> or code.
Now
here I agree with
you.
Robert
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