I see that we owe our thanks to Rene for this discovery.
Codex Taurinensis C VII 15:
Thanks Rene,
Dana Scott
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Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 11:47
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Subject: Re: VMs: A Comment on
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Hello Larry,
From which document is the Greek page you refer to taken? The following
seems to be a somewhat interesting page containing what seem to be solar and
lunar references. Notice left-hand columns on the last page which appear to
refer to the sun and moon:
Regards,
Dana Scott
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Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 11:27
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Subject: Re: VMs: A Comment on
f67r2
I have been looking at this page and am convinced that the
outer ring is a set of degrees.
I will try to show this with
limited graphic capabilities without including bitmaps of the
numbers:
The start is the top, center with |- -| |- -| =
00 next is |- -| |oooo| |- -| = 030 then |- -||oooooooo| |- -|
= 090
this goes around till the last circle |- -| |oooo|
|oooooooo| |- -| = 0360
My copy is missing a lot of the ring, so
figuring out if this is right is difficult, but the second to last wedge
shows: ??? |oooo| |- -| = ?30 I assume the missing part is: |- -|
|oooo| (03) making 0330 degrees...
If anyone can confirm this with
a better copy of the page I would appreciate it.
This page very much
resembles a greek document (see http://web.syr.edu/~lroux/mstaur.jpg)
with Aries at the same start point as the Voy page. I wish we had a
better copy of the greek page (and the Voy page for that
matter)
****************************** Larry
Roux Syracuse University lroux@xxxxxxx ******************************* >>>
rteague@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 01/10/04
11:09 AM >>> > > The "planets" consisted of the five
visible, plus > > the Sun and Moon. But the Moon is drawn in
already, > > and since it can't appear near itself, one of >
> those words cannot be 'moon'. > > That's because you're
assuming that these little > moon figures have a certain
meaning.
That's true.
> But we can't really know what
their meaning is.
That the words represent planet names has been
an assumption made long before I got here. I was merely explaining why
I'm not happy with it.
> Maybe they > just mean that each
segment is a month. Maybe the > cresent size is not important but only
the > colour.
I did discover a lunar eclipse in late 1583,
where the Moon was red like in the drawing.
> In fact, I
would be very surprised if > the cresent size is relevant.
But
the Moon is shown in that configuration in nearly every folio it appears
in. I think it IS important.
> There is even one > figure
where the moon has two crescents, one on > each side.
Which I
think means a solar eclipse.
> But, obviously, I don't know
:-/
After all these years? Why don't you? : )
> In
the end, it becomes a matter of words. > I don't think that the seven
words are certainly > the seven planet names, but I think it is
a > very promising lead.
Sorry, but I have to disagree, for the
reasons already stated. I've still got to tackle the idea they are
bright star names.
> Of the Pleiades I am far more confident,
but > even here one cannot be certain that the character >
string near the seven stars is actually a word > giving the name of
the Pleiades in some language > or code.
Now here I agree with
you.
Robert
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