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Re: Folding, flipping, turning? Was Re: VMs: John Dee
Date: 21 Jan 2004 10:08:34 +0100
From: elvogt@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Subject: Folding, flipping, turning? Was Re: VMs: John Dee
Zitat von steve ekwall <ekwall2@xxxxxxxx>:
> ...
> But, you needn't have a huge KEY to do this ...
> -=se=-
> steve (Fold 'em, Hold 'em) ekwall :-)
>
Hi Steve,
I checked out your website & read your recent mails, but I still seem to be
unable to grasp the concept of your deciphering method.
Could you outline it for me once more, please? No need to go into the details,
just the general idea. I feel I'm lost pretty much at the start of the
procedure... actually I have no idea _what_ I am supposed to fold or bend or
twist or whatever...
Thx,
Elmar, trying to unfold his talents
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debitel.net Webmail
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Hi Elmar, :-)
Fold 1 piece of paper (vellum)
*yes please* : in short, I was ~vistited~ by ES Oct,2000 and
concerning the vms - WHY, I don't know (this had never happened
before..nor since)
IN SHORT (no need to go into DETAILS you say (ha.ha))... it was
revealed that the KEY to the Coded Voynich was TIME to be opened up!
I was told to FOLD the KEY (that is take a piece of paper (vellum) and
fold it side to sid into thirds (my wife says it's quarters, but ES
said 1/3 (lol).. anyway, take that SAME (now) folded paper (vellum)
and
rotate it 90 degrees and do the same FOLDING (1/3's)top to bottom, as
per graphics
in http://www.diac.com/~ekwall2/voynich/ ... but NOTE at no time in
the DECODING will any thing fall inside this total "Folded key", that
is, I try to explain, it is EITHER the upper KEY or the Lower KEY, but
never BOTH!!! ELSE THE glyph would look like my header DOUBLE gallows.
USAGE: on UNFOLDING the above paper (vellum) you will note that the
creases (you make) appear to make a Tic.Tac.Toe type of creasing on
your paper
(vellum) HERE... ES said... ADD your language of choice in each
quadrant of the TTT or areas of this FOLDED KEY..
A TRICKY (sneaky) part.. is that There *IS* a sectioning per the
gallows that need to be "IN ORDER" else you fall in obilvion! Try to
insert "characters" (ES intended). THE "ORDER" (per ES) is
312
4*8
756
ES then said " the CENTER is YOURS " (see * in middle) - "I still
(todate) don't know what that means" other than a NULL or a ~Wild
card~
type character etc...????
anyway ... I see ALL VMS characters as standalone (albiet many are
embellished with fancy penmanship)... 4 upper gallows, 4 lower
c_gallows_c, and 8 "lower case" [pointers], and 8 ES never showed me
(sigh), : these (ES shown) lower case pointers
are (at least 1/2 anyway)(eva) are positioned her on your folded key.
4e2
/8S
goa
their (lower case) "shape" pointing to its quadrant on the TTT KEY
To USE the KEY you start by making 8 more TTT boards in EACH quadrant,
yeilding (64) enough for a good size alphabet PLUS number 0-9 .. but
just short of ENGLISH A-Z (ES said "I won't be able to read it though
- so I assume s/he meant it's NOT in ENGLISH.. (if you use the CENTER
- which ES just said the center is yours, I guess we would have 9x9 or
81 max characters) Anyway, In each of the ABOVE TTT Quadrants (on your
folded key) you insert
alpha-numeric characters (language of choice).. I had the ~Feeling~
then, that it was NOT
scrambled here, that is in TTT table, one you could type/write in 0-9
or
a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h (not using the center TTT) etc..
HOWEVER, the 1st TTT square is actually the second on the TOP! - see
the folding page. THAT is the STARTING point..(eva T) & if A-Z or
0-9 goes
first I don't know (sorry) :-( - I mostly wanted ES to go away at
that time. (see above "THE "ORDER" per ES)
you "simply" transpose from where your AT (using KEY) to the next
letter (to WHERE your going)... both sides have the _SAME_ alphabet
and numbers inserted on the KEY -- BUT MiRrOrEd --- in effect, SO that
when you reach a gallows (plain 1-4, no c_gallows)you stay on the same
side of the mirror (1/2 code) to its 312,4*8,756 TTTkey..
But, when you encounter a c_gallows_c (4-8) characters you rotate your
double
done key 180 degrees and use the MIRROR side.. THIS ~Trick~ using the
gallows ALLOWS for BOTH SIDES of the alphabet and Numbers 0-9 to be
convoluted into ~infinite~ combinations. (THIS on the _whim_ of the
scribe on
coding originally, that I think you can see THEY? got tired of
flipping near
the end and use less c_gallows_c's and just stay on one key near the
end of the vms. (just folded key areas)
hope that (above)makes sense: -)
hope this helps you
best to you & yours
-=se=-
steve (Fold & FLIP your KEY) ekwall
ps. I KNOW what I'm trying to SAY, but I'm NOT a linguist! I'm not a
crypto guy.. I don't know why I was chosen, you think this is EASY
admitting to the world that I had a visit from a spook??? ARRGGgggg
YOU try it sometimes (TouchE~)! If anything I guess I can be
pertinacious though (smiles)
say BTW list: if you have read this far (off topic now) I need some
help
with unix/linux "grep" I have some files that have linefeeds and no
carriage returns and though I heard grep can add them?? any help
off-line would be appreciated.. like: grep (file) add [cr/lf] etc..
Thanks in advance :-)
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