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Re: VMs: Re: Re: Re: The barrel mechanism
hi all :-)
Thinking *see* the mirror etc.. and I can WRITE BOTH left and right
handed, (although) - I consider myself right handed... could a
physical ~changes of ones hand~ be included?
I also "wrote much _smaller characters_" in younger years: FWIW
just a thought :-)
steve (I see @ least two (2) hands also) ekwall :-)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:41:49 -0500
From: john stojko <oko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: VMs: Re: Re: Re: The barrel mechanism
Jeff, I am not handwriting expert but even I can see that VMs is
written not by one but many.
Take under account in your analysis.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:42 PM
Subject: VMs: Re: Re: The barrel mechanism
> I have thought more about the idea of the Della Porta situation where the
> inquisition disbanded his society and also barred him from publishing. The
> best method to keep this going would be in the form of secret writing.
> the ban was finally lifted he would have the perfect item to give Rudolph
> when he was summoned to give alchemical secrets. This would have been the
> VMS. One in the eye for the catholic establishment that had taken away his
> ability to work and associate. This man was devoted to study. Also from my
> reading of his work he thought the alchemical idea of creating gold was
> rubbish. He had developed a lot of work on making alloys and knew his
> subject. The alchemists would have seemed an inferior breed to him and is
> why it would have been the best form of attack. It would keep them busy
> years and make him appear to be a useful contact to Rudolph. A bit of
> insurance against any other rainy days.
> Della Porta was a very clever man who knew the turbulence of Italian
> politics. After all he moved in the highest circles. Another suspect in
> connection with porta is Giacomo Castelvetro although I have more research
> to do on this one. The link is tenuous at the moment.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "john stojko" <oko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: 24 January 2004 01:27
> Subject: VMs: Re: The barrel mechanism
> > Did I correctly understand your reasoning?
> > If the VMS was written by one person than there is no need for second
> > cylinder to decipher what he wrote.
> > This suggest that the VMS is not gibberish writing but some sort of
> > communications between governments, religious or other group of people.
> > Hence the method of enciphering and deciphering were learned and well
> > among these groups. By the same token also the language.
> > John
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:28 PM
> > Subject: VMs: The barrel mechanism
> > > Imagine the cylinder can be turned round one notch at a time and the
> > > bar can be slid left or right. The vellum or whatever in the bar could
> > in
> > > a loop so that missing decipher characters can be moved in when
> > The
> > > EVA f could mean line up to a pre determined glyph in the bar an also
> > > reason for it being a paragraph start character. The ch and sh
> > combinations
> > > mean roll the cylinder one or more notches, the sh being 2 I think.
> > sh
> > > forms might signify other amounts. The gallows mean shift the decipher
> > > left or right. Certain other combinations might mean keep moving the
> > > until another gallows is found ie, cht.
> > >
> > > This might all be rubbish but it sprang to mind whilst thinking about
> > > Steve's method. It would be very easy to use, with one cylinder to
> > encipher
> > > and one to decipher.
> > >
> > > If anyone can pick holes in it I'd be glad to here it now.
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
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