Re: VMs: Re: Re: Re: The barrel mechanism

[steve ekwall <ekwall2@xxxxxxxx>]

hi all :-) 

Thinking *see* the mirror etc.. and I can WRITE BOTH left and right 
handed, (although) - I consider myself right handed... could a 
physical ~changes of ones hand~ be included?
I also "wrote much _smaller characters_" in younger years: FWIW

just a thought :-)
-=se=-
steve (I see @ least two (2) hands also) ekwall :-)

 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:41:49 -0500
 From: john stojko <oko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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 Subject: VMs: Re: Re: Re: The barrel mechanism
 
 Jeff, I am not handwriting expert but even I can see that VMs is
 written not by one but many.
 Take under account in your analysis.
 
 John
 
 
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: "Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
 Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:42 PM
 Subject: VMs: Re: Re: The barrel mechanism
 
 
 > I have thought more about the idea of the Della Porta situation where the
 > inquisition disbanded his society and also barred him from publishing. The
 > best method to keep this going would be in the form of secret writing.
 When
 > the ban was finally lifted he would have the perfect item to give Rudolph
 II
 > when he was summoned to give alchemical secrets. This would have been the
 > VMS. One in the eye for the catholic establishment that had taken away his
 > ability to work and associate. This man was devoted to study. Also from my
 > reading of his work he thought the alchemical idea of creating gold was
 > rubbish. He had developed a lot of work on making alloys and knew his
 > subject. The alchemists would have seemed an inferior breed to him and is
 > why it would have been the best form of attack. It would keep them busy
 for
 > years and make him appear to be a useful contact to Rudolph. A bit of
 > insurance against any other rainy days.
 >
 > Della Porta was a very clever man who knew the turbulence of Italian
 > politics. After all he moved in the highest circles. Another suspect in
 > connection with porta is Giacomo Castelvetro although I have more research
 > to do on this one. The link is tenuous at the moment.
 >
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "john stojko" <oko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 > To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
 > Sent: 24 January 2004 01:27
 > Subject: VMs: Re: The barrel mechanism
 >
 >
 > > Did I correctly understand your reasoning?
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > If the VMS was written by one person than there is no need for second
 > > cylinder to decipher what he wrote.
 > >
 > > This suggest that the VMS is not gibberish writing but some sort of
 secret
 > > communications between governments, religious or other group of people.
 > > Hence the method of enciphering and deciphering were learned and well
 > known
 > > among these groups. By the same token also the language.
 > >
 > >
 > > John
 > >
 > >
 > > ----- Original Message -----
 > > From: "Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 > > To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
 > > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:28 PM
 > > Subject: VMs: The barrel mechanism
 > >
 > >
 > > > Imagine the cylinder can be turned round one notch at a time and the
 > glyph
 > > > bar can be slid left or right. The vellum or whatever in the bar could
 > be
 > > in
 > > > a loop so that missing decipher characters can be moved in when
 needed.
 > > The
 > > > EVA f could mean line up to a pre determined glyph in the bar an also
 > the
 > > > reason for it being a paragraph start character. The ch and sh
 > > combinations
 > > > mean roll the cylinder one or more notches, the sh being 2 I think.
 > Other
 > > sh
 > > > forms might signify other amounts. The gallows mean shift the decipher
 > bar
 > > > left or right. Certain other combinations might mean keep moving the
 bar
 > > > until another gallows is found ie, cht.
 > > >
 > > > This might all be rubbish but it sprang to mind whilst thinking about
 > > > Steve's method. It would be very easy to use, with one cylinder to
 > > encipher
 > > > and one to decipher.
 > > >
 > > > If anyone can pick holes in it I'd be glad to here it now.
 > > >
 > > > Jeff
 > > >
 
 

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