Re: VMs: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lining up letters

[steve ekwall <ekwall2@xxxxxxxx>]

hi all :-)

FWIW: the ES FOLDING KEY cannot go beyond 4 (eeee "MAXIMUMs" (same 
characters) either = _simple!_)...

wiew mostly @ 2 & 3 (eee, ccc, \\\ etc....
 
best to you & yours
-=se=-
steve (else ADD a gallows) ekwall :-)

 Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:14:08 -0000
 From: Jeff <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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 Subject: VMs: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lining up letters
 
 From: "Robert Teague" <rteague@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 Sent: 25 January 2004 04:27
 
 
 > > EVA e would not always line up with c when indicated by a gallows
 > indicator.
 > > Any other time it could line up with any other plaintext letter or even
 c
 > > again due to the built in shift mechanism. This leaves us with the
 problem
 > > of eee.
 >
 > I remember reading that <eee> was parsed as <e><ee>, and <eeee>
 > only appears once.
 >
 > Robert
 >
 
 The whole idea of classifying individual glyphs as either vowel or consonant
 is a bad idea. This immediately suggests either a simple substitution cipher
 or a list of letters for each glyph. Fixed lists would be easy to attack
 with the right analysis and I do not believe that the right method would not
 have been found by now.
 
 The person that wrote the VMS was thinking outside the box so to speak.
 Either a clever hoaxer or adept at cipher construction. Read the page here
 http://fly.hiwaay.net/~paul/cryptology/history.html for an insight into all
 the work being done. This time in history was alive with experts in cipher.
 I do not believe we will ever know how much was really done as most of it
 would have been dropped as the 'enemy' cracked it. The tools such as table
 were like word documents are now. 'Deleted' when they had served their
 purpose. After all who keeps every word document? Also the vellum or other
 material would have been reused. The scribe didn't merely wander down the
 stationers for a ream of A4.
 
 This site also suggests that statistical analysis of text was already
 underway as vowel disguise was a common practice.
 
 jeff
 
 
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