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Re: VMs: Re: Lining up letters
Thanks Steve this time I actually GOT IT! I might have a little play with
that idea.
Jeff
From: "steve ekwall" <ekwall2@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: 25 January 2004 12:30
> Hi Robert, Jeff, Nick, GC & all :-)
>
> another approach? & concinnity quick thought.....
>
> *IF* folded, EACH lower case char(s). IS allowed to 'point' to ONE
> (only) of
> the 3x3 TTT areas, [*4 MAX, / & per mirrored SIDE(s)* = 8 ],
>
> AND ONLY 1(one) area on the (current) key - thus "STATIC in design",
> on the TTT key (of the vms MASTER key etc..) [THEY are STATIC in
> design!]
>
>
> >>>The
> ~VMS.Trick~ is they are _static (in position_ pointer wise) to an
> aditional
> 1 of 8
> (EIGHT)
> tables, and C H A N G E D when a (new/next)"GALLOWS" is encountered,
> (8 different TTT - on the 3x3 (folded TTT key boards)
> (thus _~FLOWIN~G_ (NON-static NOW) upto 8 MORE different chars. (THIS
> can
> be _simply_ drawn on 1 folded piece of
> paper or even committed to memory.. using the SAME (whatever
> the language) alphabet ( you just / see
> reverse (MiRoRor) on its remaining 4 TTT ( boards ) (seeking your
> next to be used LETTER) on the NEW 3x3 area...
>
> THE _lower case_ pointers still point to the SAME area (BUT ON NEW
> KEY/different/ gallows chosen area/KEY!)
>
> That is: an EVA e always points UP (north) to the MIDDLE (TOP) area of
> the TTT of
> E V E R Y MASTERkey AREA..
>
> (but to WHICH of the 8 keys??? [to answer THAT?] - *** SEE the
> PREVIOUS _Gallows char_ACTOR_ !!!!!! ***
>
> The ~Gallows~ ARE _ACTIVE_ (and fairly ~sing~ when you get it~ !!
> ------------
>
> ok Ok OK, I've tried everything else almost, to re EXPLAIN how
> this works, let me take a _different course_ (new EXAMPLE then:)
>
> ( for EXAMPLE : Think or
> GET a COMPASS (you know N.E.S.W magnetic type needle etc..) NOW grab
> an atlas of the world (2D flat image) as in ALL land mass on earth...
>
> patience please :-)
>
> the Lower (_vms 'lower__)Case' characters are "the compass points" on
> ones compass: (these are vms _lower case characters too_)....
>
> so, we have North, South, East, West etc.... (still with me ?)
> "But" we _NEED 8 total LOWER Case, so, I'll ADD ne,se,sw,nw quadrants,
> NOW I'VE GOT 8 !!! *cool & _simple_* :-)
>
> OK Now what?
>
> USING THE FOLDING KEY, we apply those (above 8) to a
> mirror & MIRRORED IMAGED KEY (2d map of the world) etc....
>
> so let's just assume we have N,NE,E,SE,S,SW,W,NW : then we'll have &
> nw,w,sw,s,se,e,ne,n: this
> will give us _all_ (8) of the -lower- case figures in the vms!!!!!
>
> now, what about those/these ~pesky GALLOWS~ ???
>
> patience please :-)
>
> you got your (2D flat global world) MAP right?? ok here's the GALLOWS
> deal:
>
> (just an example - not our decoded vms)...
>
> ON a gallows (encountered duringyour decoding) SHIFT YOUR above
> "compass" to 1 of 8 [EIGHT]
> spots on your (2d flat global world) MAP...
>
> That is: if I say
> gallows "1" put your compass (say) over USA
> gallows "2" " " " " over South AMERICA
> gallows "3" " " " " over Canada
> gallows "4" " " " " ARTIC area
>
> now if I say:
>
> c_gallows_c_ "1" put your compass (say) over UK
> c_gallows_c "2" " " " " " ASIA
> c_gallows_c "3" " " " " " Australia
> c_gallows_c "4" " " " " " ANARTICA
>
>
> This "GRIDing" of the VMS is _simple_ enough to cover most anything,
> including this _whole EARTH_ & BEYOND!!!!
>
> *IF* (& think about about it) I point SOUTH EAST of ASIA
> or " NORTH of Australia etc... whats the first letter of the nearest
> capitol city in this area?... (PS) THEY ARE STATIC TOO!
>
> (what about EAST or WEST of where your "presently AT" with your
> compass?) well, what the 1st letter of the capital city in that
> direction??? (Remember - always KNOW what (gallows area)(KEY) you're
> in!
>
> Well, the VMS is _NOT_ A GEOGRAPHIC (crypto)TOOL - but THAT IS THE WAY
> IT IS _LAID OUT_ PER "ES" ... AND, That is how we will "decode" it!
>
> Just by Reverse Engineering (of above)....
>
> That is: THE GALLOWS are the Land masses (above) while the lower case
> STAY 'static' on their 'compass' pointings etc.. (Wherever you are at
> in
> the vms/or 2D flat global world MAP....
>
> In our case the MAP is VMS KEY! & The ~script = the COMPASS pointers~
>
> IT IS MOST IMPORTANT to KNOW WHERE YOU ARE STARTING FROM THOUGH!, as
> vms uses just a _SIMPLE Folded_ KEY (for above land masses example).
>
> vms author(s) travels via _Gallows_ - & THESE MOVE TO "THIS KEY, THAT
> KEY"
> using the _lower case letters_ to indicate what can be found (needs to
> BE DECODED) in that (present compass) AREA !!!!!!!
>
>
> (yea Yea YEA - I know IT'S NOT A MAP OF THE WORLD - just an example
> that *IF* your STanding on a PART of the ~WORLD~ and don't know your S
> T A R T area - you will be LOST.. BUT IF you follow your compass'
> (lower case letters) you can READ/DECODE the VMS)
>
>
> best to you & yours
> -=se=-
> steve (hope this helps) ekwall :-)
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:36:52 -0800
> From: Robert Teague <rteague@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: VMs: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lining up letters
>
> > The whole idea of classifying individual glyphs as either vowel or
> consonant
> > is a bad idea. This immediately suggests either a simple substitution
> cipher
> > or a list of letters for each glyph. Fixed lists would be easy to
attack
> > with the right analysis and I do not believe that the right method
would
> not
> > have been found by now.
>
> I imagine you're right, but I'm such a dummy when it comes to ciphers
> and codes, a substitution is about as much as I can comprehend.
>
> As an example, just yesterday I made a list of "month names" below the
> moons on f67r2, beginning to the right of the 'start here' line. But
> instead of trying "January", I tried October, and it comes out as
passable
> Italian, <okodar>
> otobre.
>
> The next word, <qotoear> starts okay as 'no-', but breaks down after
that.
> And the remaining words get even worse.
>
> The VMs is the most fascinating, and most frustrating, puzzle I've ever
> come across. But I'm convinced there is meaning here. We just have
> to figure it out. Maybe your work will do it.
>
> Robert
>
>
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