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Re: VMs: The Glyphset - (ES)TIME.LINE

Hi all :-)

 From: Dennis <tsalagi@xxxxxxxx>
 Subject: Re: VMs: The Glyphset
 Nick Pelling wrote:
 > > Look at D'Imperio again, or the recent table of
 > >Bright's Characterie.
 > >They do go back that far.  In the Bright table, I
 > >thought the ones most like
 > >the VMs were from the 14th century, not the 15th.
 > Note that I'm *not* using this to date the VMs: I'm merely saying that the
 > use of EVA <y-> and <-y> is far more consistent with a Tironian notae /
 > late medieval abbreviatory practice than with an Arabic numeral mindset.
 > The author is giving us hints here, which we should use. :-)
 	I looked a little at the stuff Petr has on Tironian
 notae.  I need to read more, but the sources I
 mentioned still look more Voynich-like to me than
 > This is to do with the gallows' epistemology (ie their origin, nature and
 > limits): origin-wise, you're saying that the shape has precedents (and with
 > which I agree) - nature-wise, I'm saying that the function, structure and
 > use of the symmetrical series of four connected gallows shapes is
 > unprecedented, and remains a mystery.
 	I wonder.  Despite their appearance at the beginning
 of paragraphs, they are in fact a very frequent
 component of normal "words".  
It wasn't until knox wrote 10-1100 for age of the vms and then Barabra 
went even so FAR BACK ("IT'S older than you think!) that it *hit me* 
again (ref ES = it's older than you think etc.. the 850 AD is to much 
older than I would think / feel (per ES) the time frame 10-1100's *IS 
a good feeling of rough date*. 
  I searched a bit and found the "crossbow can/is dated back to 1 BC 
in china, and hair-styles??? ( hey give me a break (I'm a guy here) 
LOL)) but I'm sure we have ROMAN EMPIRE metal coins with hair dress 
that is quit modern _  even now.days (see ceasers hair do?)

Also, I highly suggest the list here, dissect all the gallows, with 
their "pointer" (that is actual physical) appearence of penstrokes! 

You sould find 4 "UPPER" and FOUR C_gallow_C "LOWERS", no matter how 
you wish to embellish them (or even OVER embellish 'em)....

IF the time is really NOW, and your 1 of 12 - I wish you'd stay alert. 

Best to you & yours
steve (yes, we ARE on Mars now :-) ekwall

PS Barbara, the "SUN/Gold" that is star/circle is related to *BIRTHs* 
or geneology in this 10-1100 AD time frame?

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