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Re: VMs: Okay, I'll try to date it



Hi Elmar,

At 09:33 02/02/2004 +0100, Elmar Vogt wrote:
I've just made up my mind to try a dating of the VM based on the costumes
depicted in the various illustrations.

Any hints would be appreciated; of course they are best if they come with links
to good scans. Also, feel free to spam my private account (elvogt@xxxxxxxxxxx)
with images; DSL's got to be good for something.

There are a number of good leads you might consider following: for example, Jens Sensfelder is (in both our opinions) probably wrong to think that the VMs' crossbowman's headgear is a rolled-up cowl (gugel) - but I don't know what else it could be (and I found remarkably few books on hats pre-1700 when I searched for them a couple of years ago).


AFAIK nobody really knows why Robert Brumbaugh (senior or junior? or both?) considered that it was "a fifteenth-century Florentine archer's hat" - it seems a very precise assertion to have made out of the blue. Perhaps a clever search of Yale's library catalogue might point to the particular book he relied upon to form this opinion. After all, it only takes one picture in one book in one library, right? And perhaps we can guess which library it was... :-)

Cheers, .....Nick Pelling.....


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