Re: Re: Re: VMs: Further investigatio of folio f1r

["john stojko" <oko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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From: "Larry Roux" <lroux@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: VMs: Further investigatio of folio f1r


> John: I think the reason people discount the Ukrainian solution is that
> 1) The text seems to have nothing to do with the pictures

Yes, you are right.
The pictures have nothing to do with the VMs text. The pictures were made
for a peaple that
claimed to be God's. Hence not of this word.

> 2) I have not seen a translation you have done, with the path you used to
get there: ie a line of Voy, your translation, then the English

Re: my home page http://home.att.net/~oko/voynich/voynich.htm
In introduction you will find step by step how I deciphered.
You can convert from Ukrainian to English alphabet by using my alphabet
table.
The original VMs text is given.


> For instance:  I would like to see this:
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> Voy (from F68r1): tochso otchl qokeeedy cheey cheeteey

I do not know the language.
So, how can I show you?
My alphabet consist of consonants ony. In about example you have vowels.
Please explaine.

> From your chart : ?WPDW  W?PL  SWT???KS  P??S  P?????S
> Ukrainian with vowels: ???
> English: ???

What chart?
Larry, if you wont me to translate, please give me the original VMs phrase
or sentance.
I will do the translation for you.
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> There are several missing symbols on your chart so I couldn't translate
correctly.  If you could show me the above for a paragraph of the Voy I
would take a serious look at your work, but until that is done it is just
another unfounded theory.
>
There are no missing symbols in my alphabet. The only missing from my
alphabet table is numbers.
In the introduction I give few samples how the letters are combined.
Yes there are more combination of two letters that looks like one.

> Belief is all in the proof!
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> ******************************
> Larry Roux
> Syracuse University
> lroux@xxxxxxx
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> >>> oko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 04/07/04 17:06 PM >>>
> Jeff,
> In my home page is posted VMS alphabet.
> The defined alphabet does not change with each page or paragraph.
> From page 1 to the last page the alphabet and language are the same.
> The space between words and phrases are well marked and stay
> the same. Using my alphabet and knowledge of Ukrainian language
> one can read and understand what is written in VMS.
> You may not agree, but this does not change what is there.
>
> John
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 2:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: Re: VMs: Further investigatio of folio f1r
>
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> > From: "john stojko" <oko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: 07 April 2004 02:26
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> > > Hello Jan!
> > >
> > > Jan, your language is Slavic, so is Ukrainian.
> > > I would like to make the following suggestion.
> > > Take my defined alphabet consisting of consonants.
> > > Than read any page and add your own vowels.
> > > You should be able to get 70% of words in your own language
> > > and the understanding of VMS.
> > > My Home page;
> > > http://home.att.net/~oko/home.htm
> > >
> > > The same is true for other Slavic languages.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> >
> > The thing about the VMS is that language constructs itself easily for
any
> > language up to a point. That is why as Rene has said several
translations
> > have been made in the past. The underlying structure lends itself to
this
> > but beware the pitfalls.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
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