RE: VMs: Kepler & the VMS

["John Grove" <4groves@xxxxxxxxx>]

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Subject: Re: VMs: Kepler & the VMS

>>Not by the number correspondences.

	Robert, these number correspondences exist only in your assumptions and
speculations of possible matching events to dates you have thrown together -
albeit with regularity between 1500's and 1600s.

>>What has logic got to do with the VMs?  : )

	Humour aside, for your numbering scheme to work there must be logic.

>> The number correspondences are written in the VMs. I didn't make them up.

	Um. Yes you did. You made the assumption that certain 4 character 'words'
are dates and created the correspondence yourself. You then sought out
astronomical events that would line up with the resulting date. Being fair,
you are consistent in your assignment of characters to numbers - but this
doesn't mean they are the right assignments (and the astronomical events
aren't really all that convincing yet).

>>I never said it was "proof" of anything, John, that's your word. I said
it works and is consistant so far. Proof (or disproof) will probably have to
wait until we can read the thing.

	Forgive my assumption that when you state the dates are there and the
events are consistent I thought you were asserting that the correlation
between the events and your dates were presented as proof of the accuracy of
your numeral-to-character correspondence. I agree we'll have to wait until
we can read some of this thing with a fair degree of consistency befor we
can start to accept things as proof.

>>Somebody has to take a stab at something, if progress is to be made.

	True. Stab away, but keep looking for numeral sequences that can prove
themselves.

>>I've not made a study of the zodiac lables.

	Might be a good place to look for self-defining sequences.

>>It's not. If you care to contact me offlist, I can send you a .jpg of the
night
sky on 29 December 1615 that shows the diagram.

	Can't recall if you sent me that diagram a while ago or not. Suffice to say
that the context that this diagram represents in my mind should be able to
explain the significance of the number of stars between each of the 4
sections as well as the significance of the number of stars highlighted in
each labeled section (1 plus 2 labels for the pleaides et al,2,3,4). Like I
said previously, I favour 4 seasons with each of those 4 sections depicting
a particular zodiac - and the 59 stars separating them in a pattern of
11/16/18/14 with opposites adding up to 29 and 30 to reflect something to do
with the length of the days. Keep in mind the other numbers close by in 68r2
and 68r1 where I believe you'll find 29 stars on 68r1 and 59 (24 labeled, 12
not labeled, 23 encircling) on 68r2.

	John.

Robert

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