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Re: VMs: Manchu theory
At 16:57 11/05/2004 -0300, Jorge Stolfi wrote (quoting Rafal Prinke):
Rafal has kindly provided an execturive summary:
> He states that the VMS is a "shaman's manual" and was written
> between 13th c. BC and 3rd c. AD - most probably in the 4th c. BC.
> It is in Old Manchurian and Bansik says he has reconstructed the
> alphabet of 45 letters and over 50 words which are Old Manchurian.
AFIACT, the key spoken language in that region was Jurchen: the (1599)
written language (which a little later came to be known as Manchu or manju)
was a written form of that language, using many elements appropriated from
the Mongolian alphabet (but adding extra marks later to disambiguate words
etc). Earlier written Jurchen looked nothing like that:-
4th c. BC? The Mongolian language dates only to the 12th Century CE:-
This Mongolian alphabet...
...was based on the [Old] Uighur alphabet...
...but even that doesn't appear to date back much further. No, sorry - I
don't see how this claim even begins to match the historical record...
please tell me if I'm missing something!
Cheers, .....Nick Pelling.....
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