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Re: VMs: Re: Plants in the VM
Hello Scott,
======= At 2004-05-22, 14:35:00 you wrote: =======
>I would say that the plant drawings are based in part, if not in whole, on >real plants the
characteristics of which were well known to the author of >the VMS.
Well, I have not seen the list of Latin names for the plants in the VM which were 100%
identified and I doubt if there is any - except for sunflower and some even doubt that. But I
agree with you that most parts do look like those existing in reality. But only the PARTS - he
problem with identification is that some of them were used for wrong plants
and we cannot say with certainty: this plant is marigold and so on. Even Georgius Baresh noticed in his letter to Kircher that the plants are not from Europe; the others even claim
they are not from this Earth :-).
I was looking for the reason of that discrepancy and it certinly looks illogical that while the
author took pain to hide the names of plants (if we consider their tags to be exactly that), he
would draw next to them the real plants, as a clear giveaway. So he may have modify some parts,
exchanging some of their parts with others, and sometimes even adding some impossible
combinations.
On the other hand, why would he draw the unrecognizable pictures at all? We can see he did take a
pain - while he was surely no big painter - to draw the plants with clear outlines and in color!
It almost looks like they are supposed to convey something else, but what it is, I do not know.
Maybe it is some code, who knows? But it would be surely hard way how to pass relatively very
little of information :-). Could it be that the author saw the plants somewhere and forgotten how
they look? I guess we would be impossible to draw all those plants from memory only.
So what is left? Could those be the pictures of some hybrids from somebody's laboratory? They do
not look like results of some cross-breeding, however. So what is left - pure fantasy? True,
but than the author must have spent many hours observing the real plants - most parts do look
like real. No unskilled imagination would be able to invent them in such closeness.
That brings another crazy idea: those ladies with "plumbing" - first I thought they were some
anatomical pictures only (considering the poor knowledge of human body at that time, before
regular autopsies), but they look so unreal that I changed my mind. What I think now is that the
"plumbing" could be some kind of crypto-art, too.
Regards,
jan .
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jan" <hurychj@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 6:12 AM
>Subject: VMs: Plants in the VM
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> looking at the plants in the VM, it occured to me, that they are
>> unrecognizable, because the author deliberately modified their
>> appearance. Did anybody get the same impression? I do not mean that they
>> contain the code - that would be real overkill - but in the case the book
>> contains some secret recipes (e.g. for "Aqua Sinapia" or others) it would
>> be foolish to hide the text and provide the exact pictures of the real
>> plants used.
>>
>> Some plant parts are defnitely "out of this world", but they also look
>> like fabrications. On the other hand, they also contain some elements of
>> true plants, many of them recognizable, see ref.
>> http://nabataea.net/vplants.html
>>
>>
>> Best regards.
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>>
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