RE: Re: VMs: Re: VMS images and copyright

["Don Latham" <djl@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree as well.  We've been after B to do just what they have done.  Also,
consider that the acquisition of the generating part of SID is not
insignificant.  At this point, the construction of a CD or DVD with a SID
reader included would be great. If B can get a piece of the action, so much
the better. It seems that a symbiotic relationship between the parties is in
order, even if the Voynich list does not exist as a formal entity.
Don

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Larry Roux
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 10:38 AM
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Subject: Re: Re: VMs: Re: VMS images and copyright


Agreed.  If we want places like the Beinecke to continue posting such great
content to the web we need to treat the institutions with the respect they
so truly deserve.

Otherwise we may someday just have a web full of retail stores.  Yuck!!!!




Larry Roux
Syracuse University
lroux@xxxxxxx

>>> gc-@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 06/20/04 12:15 PM >>>
Jan,

I would agree that the best thing to do is ask.  Beinecke also requested
that they receive a copy (or was it three?) of any publication that included
their images.  Even though they don't have a copyright on the book itself,
they still own it, and they own the images.

GC


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jan" <hurychj@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 5:30 AM
Subject: Re: Re: VMs: Re: VMS images and copyright


> Hello Walter,
>
>
>
> ======= At 2004-06-19, 21:41:00 you wrote: =======
>
>
> >(If they don't hold copyright, then Beinecke has no legal control at
all - you
> >can use and distribute them for free, for profit, modified, unmodified,
> >whatever you want.)
>
> This statement can be surely contested. True, they could not have made it
more public then by
> posting  it on net with encouragement for downloads. But that's where
their permission stops - they  did incurred high expenses for the scanning
etc., so profiteering is certainly out of line and anybody who would charge
more than expenses for the copies  could be branded that way.
>
> All this is actually only a speculation. Why don't you directly tell
Beinecke what you intend to do and
> ask their permission?  Especially when you will charge only expenses? They
of course do have
> the right  to be the first to do that themselves. If they decline, they
may not have further grounds for refusing the approval, but that is still
not enough.  On the other hand, the coincidence of VM scanning and the new
book by Churchill/Kennedy  may suggest  that the initiative for scanning
came from authors. After all, one of the authors is the relative of Mr.
Voynich. Now if for instance the above book may present some scans as well,
you may have a problem  - we do not know what their agreement was.
>
> Jan
>
>
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>
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