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VMs: RE: ...and f73v-?-?-f75r




	Well, I wouldn't say for sure.

		It seems like there could have been two folios there, but it is still
plausible that the left stub is part of f73v. The right stub may be from a
separate f74r/v, but
I'd still lean toward it being the left edge of f75r. Normal gutters are the
result of a single
sheet of vellum folded in the middle; I think when a half sheet of vellum is
inserted it makes it
difficult to bind into the gutter and requires a little slack on both the
left and right pages
being joined. I'm not saying that there aren't two sheets of vellum missing
from there, just that
I'm more convinced that f73r/v was a piece of the same sheet of vellum that
made up f74r1/r2/r3/v3/v2/v1,
and the number 74 was written on the top right of f74v2, while the quire
number 12 was written on
the bottom right corner of f74v1.

	Pure speculation... but with only two months missing and the 'possibility'
of 6 missing panels leaves
room for the two months and 4 charts similar to the start of the zodiac
section like 69r/v, 70r1/r2; for the
sake of symmetry.

	John.


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Subject: VMs: ...and f73v-?-?-f75r



> I feel like this is going to be a continuing question session as I
> continue my trudging.  So, pardon my constant postings if all this is
> redundant...
>
> Has it been mentioned before that there are clearly two folios missing
> between f67v1 and f68r1? (see: MrSID of folio f67v2/f67v1)
>
> Ken W
>
Ditto for the missing folio(s) between f73v and f75r.  There are clearly
TWO folios missing here.  I had the same thought as John Grove, though I
have doubts:

>	In order to sew the edge into the center gutter, the binder gave him self
>some slack to work with and the first remnant we see is actually the edge
of
>f67v1. Then, of course - f68r1 which has a left edge was resewn into place
>with the same amount of slack or overlap.
>
>	Is it possible that all we are seeing are the two edges sticking out from
>the center because the sewing was done a half-inch into the two pages being
>joined?
>
The f67v1 to f68r1 stubs still may be missing folios.

As for the f73v to f75r stubs, if you look closely, you can see that
there is a stitched gutter - meaning in this case for sure there are two
missing folios.

Ken W



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