Re: VMs: Fw: Edward Kelley and the VMS

["Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I would also dissagree with the not terribly important assumption.

Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis" <tsalagi@xxxxxxxx>
To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 22 July 2004 05:36
Subject: Re: VMs: Fw: Edward Kelley and the VMS


> Jeff wrote:
>
> >>Gimme a break! This is too much even to qualify as
> >>post hoc ergo propter hoc.  Never mind that most people
> >>haven't figured out that Enochian is a fraud after 500
> >>years.  As William of Ockham would say,
> >>cut it out!
>
> > I would tend to disagree with the 'Enochian is a fraud' assumption. But
not
> > for the same reasons as Gordon Rugg!
>
> Jacques Guy and Don Laycock think/thought it is a
> fraud; Laycock wrote the Enochian dictionary everyone
> uses.  Jacques told me that, although he knew Laycock
> very well, his own reasoning to reach the conclusion
> was different.
>
> Enochian seems to be meaningful.  My own thought was
> that it might not be a *conscious* fraud on Kelley's
> part, but an unconscious production, like Helene
> Smith's Martian apparently was.  And do we really know
> that Martian wasn't a conscious fraud on her part or
> Theodore Flournoy's part?  ;-)
>
> Not terribly important for our purposes, though.
>
> Dennis
>
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