Re: VMs: Re: Re: Inks and retouching

["Larry Roux" <LRoux@xxxxxxx>]

What GC is talking about is, in fact, written in blue.  It does appear
that there is some intentional shape given to the coloring here.  I
can't say that I would claim it was the word "Sulfer" but it does look
more like EVA "da??r".  The fact that the writing is the same size as
the rest of the Voy text is of some consequence.

I would agree that the strokes are not random, but some intentional
writing.  But what it is is difficult to determine.

By the way, check out the 2 women on the left most side of the same
pond.  Either the left most woman (the attendant) has a really REALLY
long arm to be reaching out holding the round thing, or the woman in
front of her(the Queen) has 3 arms.  A lot of the arms on these women
seem strange - as if they were drawn first and the women added later. 
They don't seem to fit the bodies.

In the middle pond.  Is the left-most woman holding a pear in her left
arm?  That would make her really small, or the pear really big.





Larry Roux
Syracuse University
lroux@xxxxxxx


>>> nickpelling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 8/4/2004 6:57:09 AM >>>
Hi GC,

At 03:06 04/08/2004 -0600, GC wrote:
>That's good, keep me jumping!

Jump higher, damn you, higher! :-)

>I refer you to the drawing at the
>bottom left of f84r.  In this pool there are two general rows of
bathing
>women.  I refer you to the top row, sixth (and last) woman on the
right.
>Look between her legs - well, a little lower, just above where her
feet
>would be.  Tell me that's not writing.

Erm... "that's not writing". :-o

>   When I first saw it I thought it
>said "Sulpher", but that would be silly?  As with other text, I saw a
brown
>tinge to the image in this area, and used John Grove's color tool in
PSP-7
>to enhance.  I haven't got the knack of his tool as yet, but there is
>something here that was definitely written faintly in brown before it
was
>covered over with blue writing.  Pull back from the "zoom" position
for a
>moment and take in all the rest of the blue strokes in the pool.

I too have looked at the very pattern you're talking about - but take
away 
the blue wash and it seems to disappear. I wish I could make your
"sulfer" 
appear through image-processing magic... but I haven't found a way.
Perhaps 
Jon Grove will have more luck: it may be more of a borderline case than
it 
seems to me. :-|

>This is not a stroke pattern, but an intended pattern.

I'm not at all sure what you mean by this: are you perhaps claiming
that 
this pattern was originally written on the page, then deleted, but that

when the blue paint was applied, it spread down to the indentation of
the 
original (but deleted) writing?

All the same, from my image analysis, I'd say that if there is
something 
there, it's written in blue, not in brown (however faintly). But even
so, I 
still can't make it out. :-(

Cheers, .....Nick Pelling..... 


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