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Re: Re: VMs: Modern Astrology vs. Traditional Astrology
If that is what Elmar meant, or even what you mean,
then at last I grasp the point!
To recap (at least from my point of view, not to
presume to speak for Nick):
Indeed that "very little of modern astrology would be
incorporated in the manuscript that is at least 400
years old" was the question that Nick and I have been
hashing out. The document I have referenced, De Vita
Coelitus Comparandum, written by Marsilio Ficino, was
published in 1480. The question is whether astrology
practiced and published 514 years ago can be
considered "too modern" to bear on the VMs.
Since Nick and I have rather different ideas of what
constitutes "modern" astrology, what the term meant to
each of us and the dates of its onset required
I'm with you, Jan: I'm not worried that Ficino is
"too modern" for the VMs.
A secondary question is whether the same principles
taught by Ficino are borne out by more ancient
traditions of astrology, making the question of its
"modernity" moot. It is my contention that they are.
If there is anyone who is interested in this subject
and requires further clarification, I am sure, knowing
Nick's gracious nature, that he and I will be glad to
--- jan <hurychj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello Pamela Richards,
> I think what Elmar meant is that very little of
> modern astrology would be incorporated in the
> manuscript that is at least 400 years old.
> Best regards,
> ======= At 2004-09-28, 07:07:08 you wrote: =======
> >How lovely to hear from you. Yet after we spent
> >delightful hours recounting the Monkees theory. . .
> >you have no patience with your ability to relate
> >topic to the VMS? It makes me sad.
> >I admit your suggestion to make this information my
> >and Nick's little secret is very tempting, but
> >you or someone here is able to verify beyond
> >contention that there is no reference to astrology,
> >use of astrology, or no emphasis on astrology in
> >VMs, I do feel inclined to permit list members
> >to this discussion.
> >Please feel free to decode and translate as much of
> >the document as you feel it requires to demonstrate
> >the absence of references to astrology. I will
> >forward to your post!
> >--- elvogt@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >> Zitat von Pamela Richards <spirlhelix@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >> > Hi, Nick
> >> >
> >> > So far, I feel confident the kitten is safe!
> >> Smile.
> >> >
> >> > Modern astrology, as defined by an
> >> Dear Pam & Nick,
> >> As fascinating and captivating and endlessly
> >> entertaining as I find this topic,
> >> it's getting harder and harder for me to see the
> >> relevance to the VM.
> >> Have you considered to move this discussion to
> >> private mail?
> >> Cheers,
> >> Elmar
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