I wonder if anyone has been exploring the idea that
the VMs might have been used as a means of
communication between two or several
astronomers/astrologers. It is said to contain two
languages, and it has been suggested there are two
authors at least. . . when we see the outcome of
Bruno's ideas, we know that certain individuals were
courting disaster by writing about these things. What
if they used a book which looked like a medieval
botanical to pass messages to one another, a la
Steganographia? Such a book, although no doubt kept
under cover, may have appeared intermittently in
trnasit between coreespondents, thus creating the
urgent need for heavy encryption.
Wondering. . .
--- jean-yves artero
> Hi Rene, Pam and everyone.
> OT, Sorry don't remember wether this means on or off
> topic. Here is an abstract of Jim Reeds
> bibliography, as requested. It s the number 35 or so
> of printed documents list:
> Ephron, H. (Pseud. ``DENDAI'') ``A burning
> question in re the Voynich MS (slightly revised).''
> The Cryptogram. 43(1977). March-April, pp.22,46-48;
> May-June,pp.49,51-52,72. [Discussion; suggests G.
> Bruno is author.]
> FWIW my opinion is that yes, we should be thinking
> more about a possible connection between GB, JK,
> More to follow, hopefully.
> Pamela Richards
> Hi, Rene
> Here is some information for list members who want
> know more about Bruno and read his actual works:
> --The work in which he defended the ideas of
&g! t; Copernicus is _Cena de la Ceneri_ (translated "The
> Wednesday Supper), published in 1584
> --De l'Infinito, Universi e Mondi (translated "on
> Infinite Universe and Worlds), published in 1584
> Those are the only two references that I am aware of
> which Bruno makes to these beliefs. There are many
> reasons to suppose that Bruno could be deemed a
> heretic in the eyes of the Church. His ideas ran far
> beyond the pale of thinking acceptable to the
> and in many areas. Please do not equate me with the
> Church in saying this; I am far from defending the
> Church, and I am sure I would have been burned in
> Bruno's time, too. I am only reiterating the point
> that Bruno's ideas were more compatable with
> Neoplatonism, Hermeticism, and Gnosticism than with
> Catholic Christianity, and I believe it is likely
> one of these points that he was charged by the
> Others who know more about the Inquisition may
> me on this, but it is my understanding that he could
> only be charged as a heretic as a result of
> propounding ideas which attacked stated church
> and in 1600, I get the impression that the Church
> hadn't even begun to envision, let alone formally
> address, the widely divergent thinking that Bruno
> proposed when he referred to other Suns and other
> inhabited worlds.
> Although Bruno challenged the idea of the
> spheres, which today we may concurr with on an
> astronomical basis, we also know that he was an
> astrologer. When I say that astrology could be used
> in ways unacceptable to the Church, Bruno comes
> immediately to mind. He was known for his use of
> astrological magic; in p! articular he is associated
> with astrolgical magical techniques involving
> Here is one of my favorite quotes of Bruno's:
> "There are three gates through which the hunter of
> souls [animarum venator] ventures to bind: vision,
> hearing and mind or imagination. If it happens that
> someone passes through all three of these gates, he
> binds most powerfully and ties down most tightly."
> "He who enters through the gate of hearing is armed
> with his voice and with speech, the son of voice. He
> who enters through the gate of vision is armed with
> suitable forms, gestures, motions and figures. He
> enters through the gate of the imagination, mind and
> reason is armed with customs and the arts."
> "A General Account of Bonding" from Cause, Principle
> and Unity, ed. Blackwell & Lucca (Cambridge, 1997)
> page 155.
> Bruno was an expert in his day in concepts of "media
> manipulation", its use in magic, and how to prevent
> its mind-numbing effects. This resistance to
> "group-think" is evident in how he lived his life as
> well as how he died.
> Here is a site where many of this prolific writer's
> works can be read:
> Here is a list of works available on that site:
> De Umbris Idearum ('The Shadow of Ideas') (1582)
> Bruno became a noted expert in the art of memory
> still a Dominican monk. He repeatedly demonstrated
> memory techniques, including to Pope Pius V. Bruno
> carried the traditional mnemonic training well
> the Dominican traditions.
> This is Bruno's first book on memory, and presents a
> rich system which integrates mnemonics, psychology
> (ala Ficino), and hermetic magic. This work is dealt
> with at some length by Frances A. Yates in her
> Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition (1964).
> Ars Memoriae ('The Art of Memory') (1582) (Latin)
> Cantus Circaeus ("Incantations of Circe") (1582)
> An early work by Bruno on the art of memory with
> strong magical elements. It is written in the form
> a dialogue between the great sorceress Circe and her
> assistant or apprentice Moeris.
> Ars Reminiscendi -- Triginta Sigilli (1583) (Latin)
> Explicatio triginti sigillorum (1583) (Latin)
> The Heroic Frenzies... ('De Gli Eroici Furori')
> Another major work of Bruno's, almost impossible to
> find, dealing with the philosophy of love and love
> a means of mystical ascent.
> De Magia (Latin)
! > One of the very few of Bruno's books to deal
> explicitly with magic. It remained unpublished until
> Tocco's edition of 1891. I consider this text of
> importance with Agrippa's Occult Philosophy. For a
> translation, see Cause, Principle and Unity, ed.
> Blackwell et al.
> Theses De Magia (Latin)
> Magia Mathematica (Latin)
> By "mathematical magic" Bruno means magical
> that use characters, seals, and figures.
> De vinculis in genere (Latin)
> This is Bruno's other great book on magic, dealing
> with "bonding in general." Couliano characterizes it
> as "one of those little-known works whose importance
> in the history of ideas far outstrips that of more
> famous ones." (E&M p. 89) It explains how the masses
> can be manipulated with psychological and magical
> bonds, and how one can escape these snares.
! > Warmly,
> --- Rene Zandbergen wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > Giordano Bruno is a truly interesting character.
> > Before going into Pamela's post, I'd like to
> > that there is a little-known threory that the VMs
> > was actually written by Bruno. I wonder if anyone
> > has read the publication in question and could
> > summarise its main points to the list. It is cited
> > at Jim Reeds' bibliography, which I cannot access
> > right now (I tried Stolfi's mirror copy).
> > Bruno was in Prague for a few months in 1588.
> > He dedicated a book to Rudolf, for which the
> > emperor gave him 300 Thalers.
> > (I have no no idea how that relates to ducats).
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