Re: Re: VMs: Highly uneven word distribution

[jean-yves artero <jyartero@xxxxxxxx>]

Hi Jan,

 

No I am definitely not putting pressure on Jeff. He made a statement, I am asking the

reasons why. He is free not to answer, if he does not want to. I think I am fair in this game.

 

I am really anxious to know the arguments he can develop to convince people that EK has nothing  to do with the writing of VMS. BTW what is your own opinion on this one?

 

My question has nothing to do with Mr Rugg's work. I still consider and I wrote it earlier in

this list after reading his Cryptologia article that from a logical point of view ( I cannot

elaborate on his cryptanalysis even if I have my doubts ) he did not prove anything. And especially he did not prove that EK actually wrote the VMS, which is - I certainly

acknowledge this - the exact opposite of Jeff's own point of view. But at least Mr Ruggs

had some arguments...

 

I am finally not buying anything about VMS, for the time being, with of course the

exception  of some facts. I am not even sure that VMS is a mere hoax or gibberish

(the latter I strongly doubt ) and I am not sure it is not at all. I am looking, once again, for strong evidences. Many thanks for your mail.

 

Jean

jan <hurychj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

Hi Jean,

 

you are  putting pressure  on Jeff, while you should be  putting pressure on  Ruggs for  his statement that Kelley wrote the VM. Until Ruggs proves his accusations, Jeff has all  rights to claim Kelley did not write it. the burden of proof of the cake  is on Gordon - he should now eat his cake (or his shoes,  to be more accurate).

 

What's wrong with you guys in the VM- list, it  looks  like all of you are buying Ruggs phantasies contrary to your own longtiem  experiences?

 

Jan

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Hi Jeff

 

This is a clearcut and therefore very interesting statement. Perhaps you will be so kind as to share with others the reasons you had to make it.

 

IMHO the best way to be sure is to have an evidence of whom wrote the VMS ( and this man or woman was not Edward Kelley ) and of the fact he did it alone and hence in that case without any help from Talbot. Are we here at the moment? I am not but perhaps you are.

 

Another possible way could be to be sure that EK was obviously not in a position to write it,

because VMS was written before his birth. For this, we are oblidged to state about the date of writing.

 

A more tricky one is to state that VMS was written after his death; but now we are facing the theoretical possibility that VMS could be a rewriting which at that time was quite not uncommon.

 

And finally - but perhaps there are more possible arguments - the most tricky one would be to have deciphered it or encoded it and to find out in the "plain text"  that there is a series of facts that obviously is beyond Talbot's knowledge. For instance I would say news from the next President of the United States.

 

But even that (smile) could be objected, for instance by references to an Enochian angel.

Best regards,

 

Jean

Jeff <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Edward Kelley had absolutely nothing to do with writing the VMS. John Dee
on the other hand is a much more interesting character.

Jeff

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