Re: VMs: Highly uneven word distribution

[Pamela Richards <spirlhelix@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi, Jean

Basically, you and I have no real disagreement.

I have just started to envision the possibility that
the VMs may confer predictive content, so the
assumption that we can use its contents or
illustrations to date the document becomes a rather
interesting and more complex issue, at least from a
predictive astrologer's point of view. 

For example, if we dated William Lilly's woodcut
predicting the Great Fire of London according to that
event, our dating of the document would be about
twelve years too late.

Just something to think about.

Warmly,

Pam

Warmly,

Pam

--- jean-yves artero <jyartero@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi, Pam
> 
> Nice to read from you. I am curious to know now
> Jeff's 
> arguments, I tried and asked him the very reasons of
> the certainty 
> he seemingly has that EK is definitely not the
> author of
> VMS. Which is basically my point.
>  
> Here are a few comments of mine after your own
> arguments in 
> reaction to my mail. They may be considered by some
> members 
> as OT...
> 
> Pamela Richards <spirlhelix@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Jean
> 
> > And finally - but perhaps there are more possible
> > arguments - the most tricky one would be to have
> > deciphered it or encoded it and to find out in the
> > "plain text" that there is a series of facts that
> > obviously is beyond Talbot's knowledge. 
> 
> Pam: The assumption in using this form of dating
> would be
> that it is impossible for astrology to make any
> valid
> or useful predictions. 
> 
> Jean: I have nothing special against astrology ( :-)
> ), but I do 
> 
> think it cannot predict everything; as was said in
> the old old days, stars
> 
> don't determine the future; they incline to it.
> Please moreover 
> 
> note that even an astrologer  in his previsions or
> predictions  
> 
> cannot envision the whole of human knowledge; this
> IMHO is admitted even 
> 
> by traditional astrology; therefore I think my
> argument remains valid and 
> 
> BTW I was not especially aiming at astrology.
> Finally, I added as you 
> 
> surely noticed: "Even that could be objected". For
> instance again, 
> 
> who knows what EK really knew?
> 
> Pam: Kepler, for one, made quite a few very accurate
> predictions using astrology; so I wonder if this
> assumption is entirely supportable by objective
> criteria.
> 
> Jean: Answered.
> 
> Pam: For those who believe the document has an early
> date,
> the challenge is to explain how apparent references
> to
> technology such as the microscope or the telescope
> appear in the VMs.
> 
> Jean: Not sure, this was Newbold's approach in
> particular,
> 
> but it was not agreed at the end; that said, perhaps
> he nevertheless 
> 
> was right on this one, but remains unproven at this
> stage.
> 
> Pam: Perhaps there are those who believe in time
> travel or
> alien UFO intervention, but I have not seen anything
> to convince me yet.
> 
> Jean: I am not competent on this one.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jean
> 
> 
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