Now understood. Evidences for your statement are coming early next year. Not to far away, since the VMS already has a long history ( :-) ).
About Gordon: My only point is that he did not demonstrate anything; on this, I think we are basically in agreement.
I wish you good luck for this one, and remain anxious to know more.
Hi Jean-yves
You will have the opportunity to read all about it early next year. I will not be drip feeding
the VMS mailing list. It will be a complete package. Well researched over the last year
or so. This undertaking is not simply mine but a collaborative effort which has been harmed
by the publication by Gordon Rugg in ways that no one can estimate. People have accepted
his viewpoint and now dismiss serious research. However I have contacts that have not been
influenced by his work and those have contributed enormously to this effort.
If this work is seriously considered it will push VMS research onto another level altogether. It
will certainly destroy Gordon Rugg's hypothesis.
Until then
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 30 October 2004 21:38
Subject: Re: VMs: Highly uneven word distribution
Hi Jeff,
If I understand well, and without grinning myself, your main point is now that John Dee did not
write the VMS. Interesting. Why?
However you state that somebody could have seen a John Dee MS with VMS characters in
it. Did you? In that case, Dee knew about VMS characters. If those VMS characters were not a finding by Dee, which is still to demonstrate, your assomption is probably that VMS characters were the creation of somebody else. Great.
Why are they not Dee's invention? Who is the inventor? Roger Bacon?
Even in that case, Edward Kelley could theoretically have rewritten the VMS after he met John
Dee, or why not before, if there is a third man/woman?
Jean
Jeff <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Jean-yves
Well, when you have seen a John Dee MS with VMS characters in it that was written
before he met Edward Kelley it makes the case for you. However John Dee did not
write the VMS.
*grin*
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 30 October 2004 11:07
Subject: Re: VMs: Highly uneven word distribution
Hi Jeff
This is a clearcut and therefore very interesting statement. Perhaps you will be so kind as to share with others the reasons you had to make it.
IMHO the best way to be sure is to have an evidence of whom wrote the VMS ( and this man or woman was not Edward Kelley ) and of the fact he did it alone and hence in that case without any help from Talbot. Are we here at the moment? I am not but perhaps you are.
Another possible way could be to be sure that EK was obviously not in a position to write it,
because VMS was written before his birth. For this, we are oblidged to state about the date of writing.
A more tricky one is to state that VMS was written after his death; but now we are facing the theoretical possibility that VMS could be a rewriting which at that time was quite not uncommon.
And finally - but perhaps there are more possible arguments - the most tricky one would be to have deciphered it or encoded it and to find out in the "plain text" that there is a series of facts that obviously is beyond Talbot's knowledge. For instance I would say news from the next President of the United States.
But even that (smile) could be objected, for instance by references to an Enochian angel.
Best regards,
Jean
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