Re: VMs: Medieval Cryptography Info

["Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi all

These MSs are examples of a long standing tradition that was not just used
in diplomatic or church correspondance. Don't take my word for it, as I know
you won't, but keep digging. It is a fascinating subject.

Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rene Zandbergen" <r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 24 November 2004 08:41
Subject: Re: VMs: Medieval Cryptography Info


>
> --- Eric <mynumberis2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Was searching for data on Hildegard and her Litterae
> > Ignota and Lingua Ignota and found this site:
> >
> >
> http://www.geschichte.uni-muenchen.de/ghw/geheimschriften/einf.shtml
>
> Excellent site indeed! (I guess it helps if one can
> read it
>  :-) )
>
> Just click on any link that says 'Beispiel', which
> means 'example'. Look at example 6 which refers
> to a codex in Vienna (it is not, as a I first through,
> Tranchedino, but seems similar). Look at the
> emperor's handwriting and see if it reminds you
> of the 'oladabas' page :-)
>
> The site does start by saying that such codes were
> almost exclusively used in 'diplomatic' environments,
> and not for private secrets.
>
> >  Just looking at some of the manuscript images is
> > very interesting though.
>
> And there are plenty of them. See also example
> 10 for a 'word game'. A pretty pointless example,
> since nobody can be misled about what is being
> written there. Thus, one should be careful rejecting
> hypotheses about the Voynich MS on the basis that
> they would not be sensible.
>
> > For diplomatic codes, there's from around 1470:
> >
> >
> http://www.geschichte.uni-muenchen.de/ghw/geheimschriften/g11_gross.shtml
>
> This is a discussion of Trachedino's work, whom he
> consistently calls Tanchredino, such that our
> searches never turned up this site.
>
> Cheers, Rene
>
>
>
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