Re: Dairol/Clairol (Re: VMs: ... speculating with "dairal_dhairal")

[Jacques Guy <jguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

24/02/2005 6:51:10 PM, Koontz John E <John.Koontz@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 mesinik@xxxxxx wrote:
>> Jacques told (I am afraid, not very seriously), he saw the word (written in
>> fluent "humanist hand") outside the ring as "clairol"

I was not serious, and then again I was. EVA <dairol> is
Frogguy <8ai2ox> (which gives you a better idea of what it
looks like.  You can interpret <d> as <c> and <l> fused.
Not so <8>. The first element of <8> is <c>, but there
is no independent second element. In suggesting <clairol>
I was deliberately mistaking the aspect of the EVA transcription
for the aspect of the original Voynich. 

Exactly like when in another message I mentioned PECTOPAH.
The point there was to confuse the Cyrillic letters with
the Roman letters. Imagine we did that. We'd hunt around
for words starting with "pect..." and sure enough, we'd
find English "pectoral" and we'd set off on a wild goose 
chase.


>We're a bit off topic, but this does bear on issues in interpreting
>script.  I know of a song entitled in different places "Volcano Juke" and
>"Volcano Juice."  I assume "k" = "ic," 

A common stumbling block for optical character-recognition
algorithms! By the way, I recently tested Fine Reader 7 
against ReadIris 10. I had used an earlier version of 
ReadIris, circa 1998, when it called itself "Universal OCR"
and I was quite pleased with it. But Fine Reader 7 turned
out immensely better--except for multilingual OCR, which
I didn't test. End of digression.

>It has occurred to me to wonder if the Voynich script was deliberately
>designed to yield characters reminiscent of Latinate characters and
>Latinate abbreviatory symbols, but arising in different ways

Yes but, Sukhotin's algorithm identifies <a>, <o> and <e> as
vowels (and also <ee>) and those look those same vowels written
in the Medieval Beneventan and Wisigothic scripts (the two are
very close). And further, a non-vowel is EVA <ch>, Frogguy <ct>
which is the spitting image of "t" in Beneventan. So...? I don't
know.

> the idea
>being to mislead an uninitiated decypherer into false hypotheses - as if
>the decypherer were instinctively led into attacking "in tofal sehypot
>heses."

That is why I don't believe that the spaces should be taken as
significant. We have to demonstrate that they are significant 
before we can consider them as such.


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