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Re: VMs: Re: entropy, shorthand systems, gallows characters



Hi everyone,

At 11:57 28/03/2005 -0500, Wayne Durden wrote:
In short, I am not yet convinced entropy studies related to shorthand
systems for speed to keep up with normal speech would apply to a method
designed to capture as accurately as possible the soundstream where speed of
transcription is not a factor, and the latter method might make most sense
if the scribe doesn't speak well the language he is capturing.

When looking at the VMs with shorthand in mind, don't forget to take into account the various strategies, such as notae (extra symbols), tachygraphy (symbols that are quick to write), phonetic rendering (f for ph, etc), contraction (missing internal letters), abbreviation (missing terminal letters), etc. Rngs r nt th nly frt! :-)


Also, at one point in my notes I captured some discussion related to the
label with the Pisces illustration but I didn't capture the source enabling
me to go back to it and can't find it via Google.  It may have been Pelling
as I have that written down in proximity?  The gist of the comment was that
the label was too short to have make much sense in the context with Pisces.

Googling for "otolal" will probably retrieve most of the posts you're looking for. :-)


FWIW, this word is almost an exemplar of what I imagine a verbose cipher would look like, where "ot-ol-al" would most likely represent a set of consonants (like PCS) expanded out into pairs. Other Voynichese letters (in particular <s>) rarely appear in pairs (so, I think "os" pairs are probably "or" pairs that have been incorrectly corrected: and the "s" in "sh", isn't an "s" at all).

Cheers, .....Nick Pelling.....


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