RE: VMs: Calendar, sun and moon

["Justin Neviackas" <Justin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

   There are a lot of physiological changes that occur in plants at
night, some more than others.  Many plants do not open their
stomatopores during daylight hours because there would be too much lost
water through evaporation.  Evaporation through these pores is how
plants get rid of waste products from respiration.  In some species,
particularly species in arid climes, these waste products build up
during the day and are released at night.  These secondary plant
compounds in addition to defense chemicals have been the subject of
interest to pharmaceutical researchers and others.

	There are also differences in plants with respect to light and
dark conditions.  Poison Ivy for example is a very phenotypically
plastic species, it will pretty much grow anywhere.  But coloration
cannot be used to determine the species.  Poison Ivy plants that grow in
a predominantly dark environment (i.e. a forest floor) tend to have very
large leaves and are red in coloration, these plants need more
chlorophyll because of the low light intensities.  However, poison ivy
plants that grow in the open sun have smaller leaves and are yellow in
coloration. The lighter color does not allow the leaf temperature to get
too high to hamper cell respiration.

	There have been some pics that have come through that have
reminded me of the above phenomenon.  And just about every pic that I
have seen from the VMS has some sort of plant-esque aspect. 
 

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The more I think about it the more I'm convinced that (most of) images
are products of imagination. Contrary to what is believed by some
psychologsts the imagination borrows quite heavily from reality. One of
the most known functions of imagination is (re)combination. Different
parts gathered from different things and glued together, adding as a
flavor one-two abstract parts and voila a new thing is created. This may
explain why parts of the images are been recognised and associated with
known things: the root look like this, the leaf looks like that and s.o.
Trying to interpret this kind of things will most likely result in a
variety of theory.

Stefan, thanks for sharing your point of view with us.

There was a discussion a while ago ,comparing the vms  with an
agro-almanac.
I don't know of any change in a plant state during night as opposed with
daylight. This is quite interesting, I don't know if it was studied
before.
There seem to be some nocturnal influence over the living things. 
The only thing I heared is that ther are  plants which need to be
collected in some specific time of year for specific results, this
circulates in my folklore.

Regards,
Florin

> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Stefan Urbanek wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I was looking at pages 67/68 with circles, stars, suns and moons. It 
> is considered to be astro-section. Has anyone considered this 
> potential
> explanation:
> 
> Let us assume for a short time that the book is more 
> botanical/pharmaceutical and describes some plants, their anatomy, 
> their properties. Then astro pages (not only 67/68) can describe 
> various calendars where one can find something
> like:
> - state of a plant in given month
> - properties of plants in given month
> - "gardening": good for collection, good for reproduction, should be 
> treated specially
> - ...
> 
> And what about sun and moon? Sun can mean "hot, heat, heating" and 
> moon can
> mean: "cold, cooling, freezing,...". We currently use sun or flame 
> symbol and snow flage symbol. Let us consider that "moon shines in the

> night and in the night it is cold" (it is very simplified).
> 
> Now, the images with symbols of cold/hot can say:
> - what plants do like cold/hot
> - what properties you get from a plant when you treat it in hot/cold 
> conditions
> - what have you do with a plant to get another product (heat it, burn 
> it, cool it, freeze it, ...)
> - ...
> 
> f67v2 can describe, for example, a process of cooling and heating of 
> certain substance.... Or it can be something totaly different...
> 
> 
> I wanted to give you another point of view on the issue. I think, that

> not all symbols represent some too abstract entities, they can 
> represent common objects or properties...
> 
> Just for thinking...
> 
> Stefan

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