Re: VMs: Michelangelo "code"

[Dennis <tsalagi@xxxxxxxx>]

Brian Tawney wrote:

> The third question is: assuming the composite meaning is 
what they say, what
> does this refer to?  I'm open to the possibility that the 
manuscript conveys
> something arcane, but is this part of a known tradition, 
or is it a newly
> discovered tradition?  If it is part of a known 
tradition, what tradition is
> that?  If it is a newly discovered tradition, where did 
the ms408 project
> members get their knowledge of the tradition?

	It sounds like Hindu or Buddhist tradition to me.  Not that 
such a link adds anything to the credibility of their 
'decipherment'.

Rob Hicks wrote:
>  
> I read the sample material before I posted, and it was on its 'merits' 
> that I gave my opinion.
> Without paying a penny I can see that the 'solution' falls into the same 
> ludicrous rubbish that has, for example, been seen in 'solutions' to the 
> Phaistos disk.  

	Indeed.  Do visit here; at the bottom is a link to a 
delightfully unhinged page of absurd Phaistos disk 'solutions':

http://www.geocities.com/ctesibos/phaistos/index.html

> It's easy to do - just assign a few target words to the 
> symbols/glyphs/runes/characters, fill inbetween the words with any 
> grammar you need, and BINGO! English plaintext.
>  
> Here's proof that the VMS was written by Tolkein.
>  
> EVA character        'Meaning'
> a                            GREAT
> ch                          EVIL
> d                            HOBBIT
> e                            POTATO
> f                             EXIST
> i                             MANY
> k                            ARMY
> l                             WAR
> n                            DEATH
> o                            ELF 
> r                            BATTLE
> s                           TOWER
> sh                         GATHER
> t                            MOUNTAIN
> y                           WEST
>  
> And LO!  f1r's: "fachys ykal ar ataiin shol shory" becomes...
>  
> EXIST-GREAT-EVIL-WEST-TOWER
> WEST-ARMY-GREAT-WAR
> GREAT-BATTLE
> GREAT-MOUNTAIN-GREAT-MANY-MANY-DEATH
> GATHER-ELF-WAR
> GATHER-ELF-BATTLE-WEST
>  
> Or, to be precise...
>  
> In the West there exists a great evil tower.
> To war with the army in the west!
> There shall be a great battle!
> At the great mountain there shall be many deaths.
> Gather ye elves for war!
> Gather ye elves for the battle in the West!

	An excellent demonstration!  By all means put it on your 
VMs site, if you have one.  This is almost the same thing 
that Levitov did.  In fact, he did somewhat better than Frau 
Papke did.  He decided on some single character 
substitutions that gave pseudo-Germanic 'words', and only 
then did he apply the phony interpretation.  Levitov didn't 
live to sell his version, though.

	I had had the same thought myself about Kircher.  It really 
is surprising how such a seemingly bright person could be so 
foolish.  But we've seen that enough.

Dennis


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