Re: Re: VMs: Link between Phaistos Disk & VMs...!?

[jean-yves artero <jyartero@xxxxxxxx>]

Welcome back, Jan.

Jean

--- jan <hurychj@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

> Hello,
> 
> gratulujeme k stastnemu prijezdu i novemu domovu.
> Nastesti je to e-mailem stejne "daleko" jako
> predtim, takze "si se sobe neodcizime", alepson
> doufame,
> 
> zdravi vas oba,
> Honza a  Ata.  
>   
>   
> =======  You wrote:  
> >Hi Wayne,
> >
> >At 19:00 29/07/2005 -0400, Wayne Durden wrote:
> >>   Are you aware of how it was prepared or scraped
> that dates it, because if
> >>so, I would like to close down an avenue of
> inquiry?
> >
> >AFAIK, the only commentator (Robert Babcock at the
> Beinecke, IIRC?) on this 
> >suggests a likely 16th century preparation date for
> the vellum. But his 
> >opinion isn't yet "beyond reproach", to use your
> phrase.
> >
> >>In all seriousness, MS experts and archivists
> can't conclusively agree on
> >>the Vineland map whose C-14 datings were finally
> released in the new
> >>millenium.
> >
> >FWIW, I think Professor Robin Clark's Raman
> spectroscopy analysis of the 
> >Vinland Map (which indicates a 20th century
> forgery) is by far the most 
> >credible and comprehensive of all the analyses
> done. True, I would have 
> >preferred a more comprehensive study of all the
> inks used there: but 
> >funding is funding, so you make do with what you
> can get. :-o
> >
> >>Kind regards, but hoping you might have something
> a bit more compelling
> >>about the aspect of the parchment that says it is
> quattrocentro from 10 m.
> >>away so that I can shut down this line of inquiry.
> >
> >In my last posting on this, I did include a list of
> evidential features 
> >which support the 1400-1500 dating claim, and there
> are plenty of others I 
> >could have appended (which I have posted on the
> list at various times). 
> >Which of the former were insufficient for your
> needs?
> >
> >My original post noted the symmetry linking two
> claimed decipherments of 
> >two different objects, where both claimed that an
> "Old" (implying 
> >simplified & stripped down) Eastern European
> language was in use. To my 
> >eyes, John Stojko's "Baby God" reading fails to
> explain the internal 
> >structural features of Voynichese, and also fails
> to explain the pictures 
> >and diagrams at all.
> >
> >However, this same criticism would almost certainly
> be true of just about 
> >any other "Old <x>-ese" plaintext claims that could
> be made. Right now, I 
> >would say that the simplest and most compelling
> explanation we have for 
> >those same curious statistics and curious
> structures is that they arise 
> >from some kind of curious encipherment. This alone
> would almost certainly 
> >date it to late medieval (if not early modern)
> times.
> >
> >In terms of proof, I suspect you may be treating
> this as a criminal case 
> >rather than a civil one. :-) Having said that, I
> would agree that the 
> >quality of our expert witnesses is somewhat
> variable - just as in real 
> >life. But I guess we take that uncertainty as a
> given here, not as a signal 
> >for astonishment and silence (following Foucault).
> :-o
> >
> >Cheers, .....Nick "I didn't do it" Pelling..... 
> >
> >
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