| Hi Dana I have a copy of the book Ralegh and the Throckmorton's by 
A. L. Rowse published in 1962. It has two mentions of John Dee in connection with 
Ralegh and confirms what you have found. I had already found many references to Dee 
and Ralegh. The interesting thing about the Throckmorton's is the plot 
some of the family were involved in to depose Elizabeth I. Later Ralegh married Bessie 
Throckmorton who was a lady in waiting to Elizabeth. The mistake Ralegh made was in 
not asking the queen first. He went to the tower for this. The Earl of Essex, Robert 
Dudley, also married in secret but was forgiven by the queen. Maybe the Throckmorton name was 
to blame here. Ralegh was the patron of Thomas Harriot, who was the 
central figure in Ralegh's School of Night. This circle were separate from the Philip Sidney 
circle and the trio of Burghley, Walsingham and Leicester. These three despised Ralegh and 
favoured Drake. Because of this a lot of Thomas Harriot's work was never published 
and it is only now that historian's are restoring his reputation, much like that of John Dee, 
who seemed to be between both camps. It is known that Harriot corresponded with Johannes Kepler 
in Prague and some have suggested that it may have been Harriot who gave Kepler 
the idea of elliptical orbits. It is also suggested that Harriot may have had a telescope 
before the Dutch applied for their patents. So you see history may not be the way we have 
been taught it. In this respect I totally agree with Wayne Durden. Jeff ----- Original Message -----  
 |