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*To*: stolfi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx*Subject*: Re: About the "|_/\" symbol*From*: "Dana F. Scott" <dfscott@xxxxxxxxxxx>*Date*: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:21:53 -0800*Cc*: voynich@xxxxxxxx, AFScott@xxxxxxx*Organization*: Pacific Bell Internet Services*References*: <001501c07b15$50ce4940$039c403e@screaming.net> <3A5D33D4.5DF044C@pacbell.net> <200101120243.f0C2h2s04328@coruja.dcc.unicamp.br>

Jorge, Thank you for your response. There interpretation of these glyphs does appear to be somewhat complex, especially with their limited usage in the VMS. The interpretation of | /\ as 17 is quite interesting. I was reminded of the Arabic numerical system used in the Middle East. http://www.sakkal.com/instrctn/Arabic_Numerals.html Using the Arabic/Middle East numbers, | /\ becomes 18 when translated to the Arabic/West number system. And then there is also the dot for zero so we can curiously get 180 or half of a 360 degree circle. Hmm? Interesting, but I'm not convinced. These glyphs in the VMS seem more likely to have geometric/angular significance, but I really can't tell at this point what they refer to exactly. Regards, Dana Jorge Stolfi wrote: > > http://highway49.library.yale.edu/PHOTONEG/zoom/z361/z3610554.jpg > > > > [Dana Scott:] Now, I am wondering what a symbol (may be a > > compound symbol) that looks something like |_/\ with a plume > > above the underline cross-bar might be a reference to? > > I tink it was Rene who made us notice that "17" would be written > "| /\" in 15th century texts, at least in Germany: > > http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/voynich/misc/german3.gif > > Coincidentally, that ring of text consists of 17 symbols, repeated 4 > times (with minor variations). > > Apparently, this coincidence was noticed before: on the Marshall > Library photocopy of this page, someone scribbled "17" next to that > glyph. > > The "underscore" between the two digits could be just a calligraphic > ligature. The small circle above it is harder to explain. It could be > just a dot, to mark the sequence's starting/ending points. Or it could > be a 10's place symbol, as in (ahem) Chinese --- where the number 17 > is written with three symbols, literally "one-ten-seven". > > All the best, > > --stolfi

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**References**:**Re: Voynich Manuscript***From:*Dana F. Scott

**About the "|_/\" symbol***From:*Jorge Stolfi

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