VMs: Fwd: failure delivery

[Rene Zandbergen <r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx>]

Second time I did this ....

> 
> --- "Rafal T. Prinke" <rafalp@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  
> > I have just come back from Warsaw where - having
> > some time - I went
> > to a library which I had known had what is the
> best
> > monograph
> > on Marci, namely:
> > 
> >       Servit, Z.: Jan Marek Marci z Kronlandu,
> > zapomenuty 
> >                   zakladatel fyziologie a
> mediciny,
> > Bratislava  1989
> 
> The author also contributed to the 1966 book on
> Marci,
> so he's a long-standing expert.
> 
> > 1. On p. 49 there is a very interesting mention of
> > our (and Marci's)
> >    elusive friend: "For many years Marek's close
> > friend was
> >    Jiri Bares (Georgius Barschius), experienced
> > chemist (rerum
> >    chemicarum peritissimus), from whom Jan Marek
> > often obtained
> >    valuable information in this field. Bares after
> > his death
> >    gave to Marci the collection of his notes and
> > observations, as
> >    well as his chemical library. Marek wrote about
> > it in his
> >    _Philosophia vetus restituta_ (p. 280)."
> 
> 'rerum chemicarum peritissimus' is an epithet which
> Marci uses of Baresch in his letters to Kircher as
> well.
> IIRC, the inheritance by Marci of Baresch'
> alchemical
> library is quoted in Brumbaugh, and his source is
> Voynich's set of notes kept in the Beinecke.
> 
> How did Voynich know???? Until now, the only mention
> of Baresch' name was in the Kircher carteggio
> (collection of letters) and I thought Voynich could
> have
> seen it or talked to someone in the Mondragone who
> studied it. If Baresch is mentioned in the above
> well-known book of Marci, it changes the picture.
>    
> >    Perhaps there is a copy in the British Library
> or
> > other
> >    available to someone - it is just a matter of
> > checking
> >    page 280 (alternatively, a copy can be bought
> > on-line
> >    at US$ 4,800)?
> 
> There are plenty copies of this book still around,
> I am sure. 
> 
> >    It seems to indicate that Baresch had already
> > died by 1662.
> 
> Did you get this also from Servit?
> 
> > 2. On p. 52 there is something about VMS - but it
> > appears
> >    that Servit knew only what was in Newbold (whom
> > he quotes)
> >    and does not link Bares to VMS. He also says
> that
> >    Marci's valuable library was inherited by his
> son
> > Jan Ludwik
> >    but it is not known what happened to it later. 
> 
> One wonders...
> 
> >    "It is only known that a year before his death
> he
> > sent
> >    to Athanasius Kircher one of the most valuable
> > manuscripts
> >    from this collection, the so called _Cabalistic
> > manuscript
> >    of Roger Bacon_. As it appears from the letter
> by
> > G. A. Kinner
> >    to Athanasius Kircher of 5 January 1667
> > (Carteggio Kircher,
> >    Roma, VIII, fol. 150), it was probably in
> 1666."
> > [and then
> 
> I'm pretty sure that Newbold had not had access
> to the Kircher carteggio. So who has seen this
> letter
> by Kinner such that Servit could write about it?
> John Fletcher, probably, but how could I have
> missed it???
>  
> >    I can't remember if we have the above letter by
> > Kinner?
> 
> This can (and must)  be found. 
> 
> > 3. On p. 57 Servit says that at the end of his
> life
> > Marci has
> >    problems with sight and memory (as he says in
> one
> > of
> >    his letters - "corruptis oculis et infirmata
> > memoria").
> 
> So Servit probably saw the letters himself...
> I wonder if he is still around and willing to
> answer some well-phrased questions from
> a volunteer who speaks Czech.
> Marci writes about his eye poblem in other
> letters too. I had not heard about his memory
> problem.
> 
> >    Comparing it to other of his letters, it even
> > seems that he
> >    wrote it in his own hand (but it could only be
> > proved with
> >    proper graphological analysis). At the end of
> > 1666 he 
> >    made his last will but could not sign it
> because
> > of weak
> >    sight." [it was signed only by 3 witnesses - 2
> > professors
> >    of the medical faculty and one lawyer]
> 
> I would agree, both about the handwriting and
> about the need for an expert. The one question about
> the Marci letter in the VMs is that the year number
> is
> 1665 overwritten to become 1666 (or vice versa).
> Could this be evidence of Marci's memory problem ??
> 
> Thanks to Rafal for yet another valuable
> contribution!
> 
> Regards, Rene


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