RE: VMs: RE: RE: Cicco Simonetta / Sartirana / library...?

["GC" <glenclaston@xxxxxxxxx>]

I forgot to mention another compound symbol from f57v, which looks
like this:

   _____
        \    O
         \________

This symbol is only found in shorthand to my knowledge, and means
"deliverance".

GC









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> library...?
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>
> Gabriel wrote:
> > Glen, which are those? Do you mean in the sequences?
> > Can you point to an example?
>
> Certainly.  If we start around the second ring of f57v, from the
> clearly marked starting point, we have o,e,8 none of which are
> strictly shorthand symbols, but are found in shorthand.
>  The next
> symbol, Currier?s 2, is also not strictly shorthand,
> but found in
> shorthand.  So is the next symbol, a ^.  This is either
> ?a? or ?g?
> in shorthand systems.
>
> The next symbol, your picnic table, is not limited to shorthand,
> but found in all ancient shorthand systems.  Its old meaning was
> apparently G+l, gal, short for the new testament book Galations.
> This followed by a gallows, an old Latin shorthand
> symbol and also
> incorporated into English shorthand systems in various
> ways.  The
> next two glyphs have various meanings in various systems,
> primarily as compounds.
>
> This brings me to my favorite glyph, which looks like this:
>
>           |   O    /\
>           |       /  \
>           |______/    \
>
> In Shelton?s second system (from which all these meanings are
> derived), this is a combination of two words, Fear, and
> God.  The
> letter F is drawn
>
>       |                                          /\
>       |                                         /  \
>       |______    and the letter G is drawn     /    \
>
> The word feare is created by adding the dot over the
> letter F.  In
> Shelton?s system, ?Feare of God? is written without the dot, and
> ?Feare God? is written with the dot.  This is clearly a
> compound,
> and occurs no where else in all the books I?ve looked at.
>
> All these symbols have shorthand equivalents, but?s lets skip to
> some of the others that convince me this is derived from
> shorthand.
>
>               _____
> This symbol   \      is shorthand, but not limited to Shelton.
> The symbol following this however, is unique in my view to
> shorthand, and comes in two variations, both of which
> can be found
> in Shelton, and mean ?rn? and ?rne?.  Unfortunately it doesn?t
> draw well in txt.
>
> I don?t have time to go through all the unique symbols
> that can be
> found in the VMS starting from f1v, but I can say that I have
> found each and every one of them in Shelton?s earlier and later
> systems.
>
> Once I?ve gone through the entire manuscript and catalogued each
> symbol, I?ll be able to present my page that sources
> each of these
> glyphs, including some that are apparently holdovers
> from Tyronian
> notes.
>
> Meanwhile, if anyone has any information on old manuscripts
> written in shorthand, especially non-English
> manuscripts, I?d very
> much appreciate it.
>
> GC
>
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