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VMs: f57v _4 seasons_
Hi all :-)
More than 2 years? I pointed out (here on this list) that the f57v had
one of its few, if not only, repetative sequences to be found in the
VMS. (the 2nd circle (from the outside in). But note even back then
the 17 characters that REPEAT themselves in THIS CIRCLE are ~Broken~
at the (what I call "spring/start") 3 o'clock (circle) left.
The "spring/start" _twisted bobby-pin(s) characters_ would reference
folding, which is why it caught my eye back then. The CENTER figures
~Feel~ and LOOK merely the 4 seasons? (Starting at 3 o'clock) !
1: Spring, 2: Summer, 3: Fall, 4: Winter... ... ...
(center/central figures)
1: SPRING (holding up EGG and/or SEED of life)
*offering it to summer's strength / higher ARM (clockwise)
2: SUMMER (growing large nose / manely growth, Longer hair)
*arms connected to both spring and awaiting Fall -
*BOTH Spring & Summer are drawn as "right-handed characters"
3: FALL (crowned in autumn ~glow~ - Left Handed>? (is sad?)
* cannot pass life onto/backto winter (no arm)
4: WINTER (SNATCHES LIFE SEEDs) anyway, (strongest RIGHT ARM) wins
*no face, balding loss of hair on head - but MALE)
**left arm relunctantly (weakened arm) passes it to (though not
connected) SPRING
[2 males / 2 females] 1 good / 1 bad: [1 happy / 1 sad]
The Strength of 'summers NOSE' is not an accident if you see the
female strokes/Flow of pen of ~females in the baths~. -=se=-
(note the small mouth of FALL - then the repeated stroke of ink over
SPRING's mouth and right arm)
(hair length of EACH is an important feature to note here too/also -
when starting from/at the 3 oclock "spring/start")
f57v LIFE (seed) _cycle_ >> completed !
another interesting symbol to note is the VERY CENTER, the circle with
a dot in it @ "SUN" or gold in ancient scribings. 1,000's of yrs old!
This 2nd Circle (ring) of f57v - has the best chance of first decoding
I feel - if our Astronomers can ~WRAP~ or FOLD? the seasons into 4
Parts with 17 days/things? each season - with a 2-3 day/things
LEFTOVER per calendar current in the year it was written.
PS. does "17" ring a bell - for any of the MATHmaticians out there?
_besides prime #_ ?? 0r >340 to 365< / 17 ??
is there a (see) 3 3 9 combination?
mirror 9 3 3 combination?
Thoughts/Taught?
-=se=-
Best to you & yours
steve (FOLD IT, FLIP IT) ekwall
PSS - GC - I must need Lasik eye surgery now (sigh) but I cannot find
your "deliverence" below? What circle is it on and ~approx~ clock
location? THX in advance :-)
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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 16:23:52 -0500
From: GC <glenclaston@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: RE: VMs: RE: RE: Cicco Simonetta / Sartirana / library...?
I forgot to mention another compound symbol from f57v, which looks
like this:
_____
\ O
\________
This symbol is only found in shorthand to my knowledge, and means
"deliverance".
GC
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>
> Gabriel wrote:
> > Glen, which are those? Do you mean in the sequences?
> > Can you point to an example?
>
> Certainly. If we start around the second ring of f57v, from the
> clearly marked starting point, we have o,e,8 none of which are
> strictly shorthand symbols, but are found in shorthand.
> The next
> symbol, Currier’s 2, is also not strictly shorthand,
> but found in
> shorthand. So is the next symbol, a ^. This is either
> “a” or “g”
> in shorthand systems.
>
> The next symbol, your picnic table, is not limited to shorthand,
> but found in all ancient shorthand systems. Its old meaning was
> apparently G+l, gal, short for the new testament book Galations.
> This followed by a gallows, an old Latin shorthand
> symbol and also
> incorporated into English shorthand systems in various
> ways. The
> next two glyphs have various meanings in various systems,
> primarily as compounds.
>
> This brings me to my favorite glyph, which looks like this:
>
> | O /\
> | / \
> |______/ \
>
> In Shelton’s second system (from which all these meanings are
> derived), this is a combination of two words, Fear, and
> God. The
> letter F is drawn
>
> | /\
> | / \
> |______ and the letter G is drawn / \
>
> The word feare is created by adding the dot over the
> letter F. In
> Shelton’s system, “Feare of God” is written without the dot, and
> “Feare God” is written with the dot. This is clearly a
> compound,
> and occurs no where else in all the books I’ve looked at.
>
> All these symbols have shorthand equivalents, but’s lets skip to
> some of the others that convince me this is derived from
> shorthand.
>
> _____
> This symbol \ is shorthand, but not limited to Shelton.
> The symbol following this however, is unique in my view to
> shorthand, and comes in two variations, both of which
> can be found
> in Shelton, and mean “rn” and “rne”. Unfortunately it doesn’t
> draw well in txt.
>
> I don’t have time to go through all the unique symbols
> that can be
> found in the VMS starting from f1v, but I can say that I have
> found each and every one of them in Shelton’s earlier and later
> systems.
>
> Once I’ve gone through the entire manuscript and catalogued each
> symbol, I’ll be able to present my page that sources
> each of these
> glyphs, including some that are apparently holdovers
> from Tyronian
> notes.
>
> Meanwhile, if anyone has any information on old manuscripts
> written in shorthand, especially non-English
> manuscripts, I’d very
> much appreciate it.
>
> GC
>
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