Re: AW: VMs: Re: word ... ... of Mongolia

[Gordon Rugg <g.rugg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi;

I should perhaps clarify: the key point of the "Mongolian nephew" explanation is
that it specifically does not include any coding or ciphertext - it argues that the
VMS is a plaintext in an unidentified language.

The argument that the VMS is an _encoded_ version of a language such as Mongolian is
a lot more believable, but that's different from the "Mongolian nephew" explanation.

Best wishes,

Gordon


Mart Vabar wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Gordon Rugg wrote:
> > I think we can eliminate the "Mongolian nephew" explanation (that the VMS is a
>
> hi
>
> Yes, I think you could be on the right way... ...but not sure if I like the
> context how it was exhibited. Of course it can't be personal, I just think the
> style could maybe be related with the system you work for? If you tell me now, I
> am too nervous, you are probably right.
>
> Well, sorry, I lost the problem of course.  So, since the VMS is
> such a fine thing, lets think a little bit about the "Mongolian working
> hypothesis"... ... not at zero likelihood IMO
>
> ¤ Where V. vas expelled in Sibiria, there was in 1400 the Golden Horde.
>
> ¤ These herbs seem me to be from where the mentioned places are.
> (Of course I am not too sure, you see.)
>
> ¤ If V./some other Polishman in Sibiria forged something, it could be a MS of
> some old-time Polishman in Golden Horde, describing local herbal medicine in
> European form... ... to put his oppressed, but once so mighty fatherland in
> headlines (so we would tell it today)
> ...and this herbal medicine was probably not much different in V. days. It
> could be, some bored scientist in Sibiria described this later.
>
> ¤ all this does not exclude ciphertext in VMS (and I would still like it
> not to be a hoax. But without physical tests - just sceptical)
>
> ¤ btw, AFAIK the illiterate mongols not only saved there sensitive info
> (diplomatic, military etc) in songs, but also sometimes ciphered it in songs.
> Don't ask how.
> The rythm of VMS seems to be a little bit similar to native singing...
>
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