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VMs: f48, was Re: Currier A and B



--- GC <glenclaston@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Breaking the herbal section down to a1 and b2 (48v
> is a b2 page, not an a1 page), 
  [...]

I just had a look. The handwriting is more '1' than
'2', in my opinion.
The language has some mixed characteristics,
more like the pharmaceutical and cosmological
sections. It does include a
number of words which are otherwise only found
in B language (e.g. Currier 'ZC89', Eva "shedy"),
so in that respect one could classify it as B.

That is valid for both recto and verso. One should
also look at the other folio on the same bifolio.
It is quite interesting. 

I restate my earlier opinion (based on text
statistics), that the 'language' of the Voynich 
MS is not a mutually exclusive pair (A vs B) 
but shows a rather gradual evolution. Currier could
not have spotted this since the transition is in
a section of the MS which he did not transcribe.

Cheers, Rene
these two categories are specific enough for
> another set of tests.
> Once a1 and b2 are defined, three sets are now
> evident.  Words exclusive to
> a1, words exclusive to b2, and words shared between
> both.  Remove from this
> third list (words shared) small words like 89 that
> are common on ALL pages.
> 
> Picking a page at random, say 34v -
> Here's how the lines break down - this is accurate
> but slightly generalized,
> since the difference between a1 and b2 on these
> pages is keyed not directly
> to lines themselves, but to another factor, heh heh.
> 
> Line 1 b2   Line 4 b2   Line 7 a1   Line 10 a1
> Line 2 a1   Line 5 b2   Line 8 b2   Line 11 b2
> Line 3 a1   Line 6 a1   Line 9 a1
> 
> Yes, it even goes deeper than this, but I've already
> said enough on this
> subject.  Any reasonably insane crypto-crackpot has
> just locked-on to where
> I'm going with this.  Good pizza is not a phone call
> away, and it's not just
> an exercise in cooking - it's a love affair between
> the artist and the
> ingredients....
> 
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> Good hunting
> GC
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of Gabriel Landini
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:45 AM
> > To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: VMs: Re: Currier A and B
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday 15 July 2003 13:07, Jorge Aveleira
> wrote:
> > > I myself, also consider that to investigate A
> and B languages
> > separately is
> > > a necessity, especially when looking for
> statistical clues in
> > VMs. Here is
> > > a link to Currier's original paper:
> > > http://www.voynich.net/reeds/currier.html
> >
> > Yes, sure, but also notice that the "distance"
> between the
> > "languages" is not
> > that great either:
> >
> > http://web.bham.ac.uk/G.Landini/evmt/zipf.htm
> >
> > Look for "Distance between languages":
> >
> > "... the distance between A and B languages at
> r300 is smaller than that
> > between Genesis and Isaiah in Latin ..."
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Gabriel
> >
> >
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