Re: VMs: algorithm to generate VMS like text

["Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

>> Re: VMs: algorithm to generate VMS like text

 

>> Hi Rene I'll have a look at producing Courier and EVA. The algorithm uses data from a >> >> previous program that analysed all of the FSG text in the interlinear 1.7 file and produced a >> list of contact frequencies for each "letter". This is then plugged in to the text generator as a >> look up table for each letter. I then seed a random number generator and based on the

>> current letter, do a lookup on the table of right hand contact frequencies for that letter to

>> produce the next letter in the sequence. I have treated space as a letter here. So, to answer

>> your "blue sky" question, there is no input text and the output is different each time the

>> program is run but still has (or should have) all the characteristics of FSG text. proviso here

>> is - the look up tables for each letter are tables of 100 letters, so any letter that contacts

>> less than 0.5% has been dropped I then thought that if an algorithm can produce text that is

>> alike to the VMS and cannot be proved statistically to differ from the VMS then that

>> algorithm could be a computational representation of a physical process used to generate

>> the text at random. I have an idea of how this might work but want to spend a bit more time

>> on it before posting to the list. Anyway, I'll change the program to produce Courier and EVA

>> first and get some stats from Monkey.

 

>> Regards,

>> Brett

> Rene Zandbergen r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

 

> Brett Cotton wrote:

 

> a week or two ago a there was a post saying that it would be difficult to generate VMS text

> using a an algorithm. I brought together some thoughts that I had recently and now have a

> (not quite perfect yet) program that will generate any amount of VMS style text. Here is the

> output of the program when generating 15 lines of text: Input number of lines

 

> ?15 OE PTPTCG HCCO2G DC8G AIR AM TC8GHC8 SOHAET2 TC8G Etc...

 

> That looks quite interesting indeed. Most people (including myself) are not too familiar with

> the FSG alphabet, so it is hard to judge. In fact, this could be a sample taken straight out of

> the VMs and I wouldn't be able to say :-) The check with Monkey should be quite interesting,

> and should of course be compared with samples also done in FSG, unless you make the

> change to Courier (my humble recommendation). For visualisation of the text (but not for

> statistics!) Eva is a good candidate since you can use the Eva-hand 1 font to see whether it

> really looks like Voynichese.

 

> Some questions/observations: -

 

> as you are probably aware, one existing piece of software that can generate VMs look-alike

> text is of course Monkey itself, but that is a bit like 'cheating', since it needs to read VMs text

> first, before it can do it. Does your program generate the text 'out ofthe blue sky', or can it

> also use a plain text as an input and convert from that? A bit of a leading question, isn't it :-)

 

> Cheers, Rene

 

BTW my version of voynichese does start from plain text which is why I am very interested in Brett's program to see how it works and if it can give me a few pointers on the character substitutions. To see if I can make the encipherment have similar letter placings to the VMS.

 

Brett. I would be glad to email back any details of my own algorithm if you would like to take a look. Do you have access to Delphi? Maybe C++? I could write up the method into a program if it would help.

 

Jeff