Re: VMs: Gratheus filius philosphi (pictures posted)

[Rene Zandbergen <r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi!

These picturs are quite in the style of German
books from the time period of the VMs. You may
find similar things in Saxl: 'Verzeichniss (etc)'.

Cheers, Rene

--- PK#01 <pklist01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I have posted a few pictures form this manuscript on
> my private webserver.
> It's slow and unreliable, but please take a look
> anyway. You will see a few
> interesting pictures and you will get a sample of
> the text (I can read it,
> it's old Dutch). It's here : http://uair01.xs4all.nl
> (I hope).
> 
> Notice the trumpet-like appendices in pictures 4 and
> 9. They remind me of
> the central "asteroid" on the rosettes page. It has
> something to do with an
> alchemical (alchemystical, alchemistic?) vessel. I
> will have to look up the
> details. Then in picture 15 notice the drawing of
> "Sol".
> 
> At the moment I'm reading the commentary and there
> are some interesting
> parallels. At least, I can learn from the (modern)
> author's way of placing,
> timing and interpreting the manuscript. I'll try to
> write a short summary
> sometime soon. What's most interesting is the way an
> author could make a
> hodge-podge of basic alchemical notions, some badly
> translated and
> misunderstood alchemistical tracts, add a lot of
> phantasy, make the text a
> bit longer, combine some unrelated notions, and
> still produce a work that
> was seen as "useful" or "valuable". The VMS might
> also be such a creative
> cocktail.
> 
> What's very interesting is the mention of "the
> necessity of secrecy" in
> alchemy and yet another old alchemical manuscript in
> code:
> 
> - Von zentraler bedeutung ist die Geheimhaltung in
> einem der frühesten
> deutschen alchemistischen Texte, nämlich der
> "Alchemy teuczch" aus den
> zwanziger jahren des 15, Jh.s, die in Cod. Pal.
> germ. 579 drei verschiedene
> geheimschriftliche Alphabete verwendet. (With a
> reference to: G. Eis, Achemy
> teuczch, in: Ostbair. Grenzmarken, Passauer Jb. f.
> Geschichte, Kunst und
> Volkskunde 1 (1957), S. 11 ff.)
> 
> Do we know this old German manuschript?
> 
> Were it not for the VMS I would have never read a
> book like this. The
> historic research is very interesting to read, but
> the subject of alchemy is
> the most horrid subject I know. What a load of ... !
> How is it possible that
> whole generations and many big minds have wasted
> their time on this :-)
> 
> Enjoy the pictures.
> Petr Kazil
> 
>
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