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Re: VMs: Re: German bits in the VM?
19/12/2003 8:38:00 PM, Elmar Vogt <elvogt@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that there were "three lines of German" in a
>paragraph of Voynichese?
I remember having read that several years ago
but when I checked on the relevant folio, I could
see nothing even remotely resembling any form of
You may recall Levitov's decipherment too. Levitov
managed to read a sort of pidgin Dutch into the
VMS. All self-delusion, of course, and I demonstrated
>And what about the "key"? Some latin phrase, translating to "I have been
>given many doors" on the last page? I checked but couldn't find any
>decipherable (ha!) latin letters there.
It takes a great deal of imagination. With just as
much imagination I could read on the lines below
a litany of the Holy Virgin in Greek and in Latin, interspersed
with signs of the cross. You can read there:
"hagia Maria" ("hagia" spelt phonetically as "ahia")
and "Sta Maria".
There is "some German" there too. Ah, found my Newbold!
Plate XVI, opposite p.110
I read (where S = long s):
+ michi ton oladabas + mltos + ?? + ?? cerc + ... [more rubbish]
Sta + maria + maria + via + ahia + maria +
<oror sheey> valdch ubren So nim gaS mich o
>From "michi ton" and so on you extract "mihi
dabas multos" and from the "more rubbish" you
get "portas". Hence: "you were giving me
many doors". A sound ignorance of Latin
helps reach this decipherment, too.
The "So nim gaS mich" bit is interpreted by some
as "so nim gar mich". Whence, I suppose, the
legend of the German lines.
>If this is truly a hoax, that'd be the best thing, because then the riddle
>would never end...
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