VMs: Re: German bits

[Mart Vabar <mesinik@xxxxxx>]

what I got on the last page after some big & sttronng  austrian coffee
(tomorrow I probably dont believe, its worth mentioning, so I send it right now 
in the night...


So, the four lines told me:


1. line
vorlober
(vorleser, vox-lober ?)

virsi
(I cant hold back myself here, this is the precise spelling of something like 
"hymn" or "mantra" in finnish and a bunch of other finno-ugric languages), these 
are probably just verses

vorsete??
(vorsagen??? whatever???)



2. line
+ michiton
(weiss nicht, was für ein Ton ist es)
oladabas
(lets think, its some term of vms grammar?) +

multas + te + taer tere (or  cere) + portas + m (n?) + ???
(could they be the names of  "many" glyphs of vms alphabet?
do some of them "hold" the others?)

fix + ... (I give up - could these be terms of vms grammar too?
I cant integrate very well in this logic 
"Maria" with cross etc right in the night)  +

a?or  sh??y
(some term in voynechese?)
valsch
(probably wants to say, to do something is "falsch", wrong)

so nim
(so take - seems to be imperativ "Also pronounce!")
ga?mich  O
(native Germans, please tell, was für ein "O" ist das?)








> 19/12/2003 8:38:00 PM, Elmar Vogt <elvogt@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that there were "three lines of German" in a 

>  + michi ton oladabas + mltos + ?? + ?? cerc + ... [more rubbish]
>  Sta + maria + maria + via + ahia + maria +
>  <oror sheey> valdch ubren So nim gaS mich o
> 
> >From "michi ton" and so on you extract "mihi
> dabas multos" and from the "more rubbish" you
> get "portas". Hence: "you were giving me 
> many doors". A sound ignorance of Latin
> helps reach this decipherment, too.
> 
> The "So nim gaS mich" bit is interpreted by some
> as "so nim gar mich". Whence, I suppose, the
> legend of the German lines.
> 
> 
> >If this is truly a hoax, that'd be the best thing, because then the riddle 
> >would never end...
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >	Elmar
> >
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