RE: VMs: vms sentences

["Larry Roux" <lroux@xxxxxxx>]

Yes, maybe I was a bit too strong with saying it is a "fact".  I have been told it is a "fact" that "ch" is a single glyph....and I do not agree because I see evidence of the opposite...

But until we start producing some facts that people can agree on we are not going to make much progress.  

Essentially, we cannot agree on what the character set is, what the contents are, what the age of the manuscript is, and what the pictures probably represent.

Not much progress, is there?




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Larry Roux
Syracuse University
lroux@xxxxxxx
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>>> John@xxxxxxxxxxxx 02/07/04 12:51 PM >>>
Ouch..

	Larry >I am not sure what internal 'p's and 't's mean yet, but I know for a
> !!fact!! that for the left most character in a line the p or t has meaning
>related to sentences/paragraphs.  I very much doubt this is a red
>herring.

	I really don't mind you believing that the line initials are indicators of
sentence structure - but please don't say it is a 'fact'. That is just too
misleading
for anybody who might peruse the list for evidence of structure to assume
that
this is an accepted fact when it really is only your strong assertion of
your personal
belief.

	Larry>This also means that transcriptions should remove "p"s and "t"s when
>they begin sentences/paragraphs.  The first word of f115v is not tchedor
>but chedor


	Okay, I'll agree that the first word of every page is a word by itself with
the first character stripped off... that was discussed on the list plenty of
times
and 'almost' all first words fit perfectly into that statement. I'm not sure
the same
can be said for every single line initial gallows though.

	John.




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Larry Roux
Syracuse University
lroux@xxxxxxx
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>>> incoming@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 02/07/04 04:18 AM >>>
Hi Jeff,

At 00:39 07/02/2004 +0000, Jeff wrote:
>From: "Nick Pelling" <incoming@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > At 12:00 04/02/2004 -0500, Larry Roux wrote:
> > >This is all guesswork, but my feeling is that new paragraphs are
lines
> > >that start with EVA "P", and new sentences begin with EVA "t".   I
have
> > >not identified further breakdown of structure as of this point.
> >
> > I don't think this is highly likely, sorry: "t"s can be very closely
> > clustered, or far apart - there's no consistency I can see that
would
> > suggest this.
>
>Oh yes there is Nick

If you can see some consistency there, please tell me what it is so that
I
can see it too.

The patterns I see are more to do with Neal keys - short sets of text
(typically 2/3rds along the top line of a paragraph) enclosed by pairs
of
single-leg gallows. But nothing obviously to do with EVA <t>.

Cheers, .....Nick Pelling.....


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