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VMs: Re: Is VMS unique - Was: Folio and Quire numbers
PK#01 pklist01@xxxxxxxxx wrote
On 04 April 2004 08:12
> IMHO VMS is unique. I've been making a loose and informal inventory of old
> crypto methods and I've found examples from France, England, Italy,
> Bohemia, and the Dutch Republic. All these methods are pretty standard and
> would have been cracked by now.
> The fact that the VMS has not been cracked could point to a complex mix of
> crypto methods. But I've found no evidence yet that such mixes were in use
> in 1400 -1700.
It is NOT a mix of crypto methods!
> I know Nick's "adapted shorthand" theory and I hope he can crack the VMS
> that way, but the examples I've seen of shorthand and wax tablet writing
> didn't look very VMS-like.
Nick has some good ideas and they are founded in a lot of research. He is
> The statistics of the VMS don't point to any common language. So cleartext
> doesn't seem an option.
It is based in common language DEFINATELY!
> In this way the VMS is unique and we've been stuck in this situation for a
> long time.
> On the other hand all the evidence points to a West European provenance
> a period between 1400 - 1700. The VMS is clearly part of this culture,
> not a stand-alone artifact.
I agree 100%
> While we've not made much progress in cracking the VMS, we've come to
> understand both it's weird and it's ordinary aspects much better. So in
> way we're going round in circles, but in another way we know the VMS
> than before.
I am not going round in circles! And I don't believe most people on this
list are either.
I have read some dicussions on list recently that are VERY interesting
> My personal guess is that the VMS is a one-off artifact like the (take
> cover!) Phaistos disk and by it's very nature unsolvable. AFAIK the
> provenance of "THAT disk" is better known than the provenance of the VMS.
> least it comes from a well documented archeological dig. Where the VMS
> from we don't really know.
> NB: At the moment I'm reading (trying to read) a set of paleographic
> exercises to get a feel for old scripts. There is some (standard) crypto
> the exercises and I'll try to post it. It surprises me how much old Dutch
> writing looks like old Italian writing. At first sight is seems to have
> pretty standard all over Europe (but I might be pretty much wrong here).
This will help in some respects and not others.
You may believe my statements to be too confident. Well?
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